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PostSubject: Re: Feminism and contemporary rights and expectations of men   Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:20 am

I'm thinking about the grey area where you can't say that the male party is wrong or the female party is right.

Most guys don't want to be weaker or shorter than girls because they feel that men have to be stronger and larger than girls otherwise they think that they're just inferior to everyone else.

Then there's the question of "Who does the household chores and take care of the children?". It is usually the female who becomes a housewife and stays at home to support their husband. However, the trend is slowly moving more towards stay at home husbands and working wives, or both working.

A feminist might argue that women should not be housewives as they have equal rights as men, so therefore they should go out and pursue their career. However, there's the man who also wants to go out and pursue their career, the children to be taken care of and the household chores to be done. People might hire servants but not everyone can afford them and neglecting your own children is a recipe for disaster.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism and contemporary rights and expectations of men   Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:10 am

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@Hyoka wrote:
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Feminism is mostly black and white in my opinion. I mean, where's the grey area?

The bed.
No, seriously.

I'm quite serious

Everyone feels good right? You don't yell at each other while you're connected...

unless you're doing it wrong
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism and contemporary rights and expectations of men   Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:21 am

@Dicks not to mention how there were several waves of feminism. At least in America.

@LXE Okay, I see what you're saying now.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism and contemporary rights and expectations of men   Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:43 am

something i picked up on a few days ago but just found it again by accident.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/566429325/tropes-vs-women-in-video-games/

she's gonna do it, man.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism and contemporary rights and expectations of men   Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:33 pm

Not really a surprise. You'd be amazed how much you can get done by goodwill or putting yourself in vulnerable positions. I think men also didn't evolve out their gender role, since most men measure social acceptance with acceptance from women. I also wonder if this had some other negative consequences, like that MGTOW movement; or bad birth rates.

I don't primarily blame women for their double standard. What I do blame is misandry, chivalry and other means of self-castration.
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Remember to love and respect the women, guys.

I suppose Sugoibawks didn't mean it like that, but that statement is a good example of chivalry. Y didn't he say:" Remember to respect ppl regardless of gender, guys"?


http://feminism-evaluated.m.webs.com/site/classic?url=http://www.freewebs.com/feminism-evaluated/index.htm&back=http%3A%2F%2Ffeminism-evaluated.m.webs.com%2Fsite%2Fmobile%3Furl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.freewebs.com%2Ffeminism-evaluated%2Findex.htm
It's quite a wall of text, but it's quite astounding
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism and contemporary rights and expectations of men   Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:10 pm

I'll watch that series :3

Great read, Valk (:
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism and contemporary rights and expectations of men   Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:12 pm

the laws and such that text speaks of are highly discriminatory and really need to be re-evaluated to be proper for everyone.

those cases though of men calling police out due to wives being abusive and then being arrested themselves is just so wrong though, makes you feel like you have nothing on your side.

though reading any of these gender based research papers you get a feeling that you can't really trust anything, i'd like to think you can trust your own judgment but you never know if thats subconsciously biased due to ideas that's be hammered into your mind at a young age from any of these groups or just plain culture.

though my father has this idea that for us to evolve as a society we must first break it to then put it back together, though he also believes that there is no use in second languages and everyone should just speak English.

at the rate we are going at though for the moment is this kind of 'fake' multiculturalism ruled by females. maybe most the population will die in some apocalyptic type scenario and then rebuild its self to be better, or worse. any rate these issues are probably after my time, but probably really close to it.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism and contemporary rights and expectations of men   Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:45 pm

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at the rate we are going at though for the moment is this kind of 'fake' multiculturalism ruled by females. maybe most the population will die in some apocalyptic type scenario and then rebuild its self to be better, or worse. any rate these issues are probably after my time, but probably really close to it.

@_@ You have far less hope in humanity than I originally though.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism and contemporary rights and expectations of men   Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:56 pm

i have my days

and i was only pointing out with all these nuclear weapons around it is possible for such a thing to happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism and contemporary rights and expectations of men   Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:59 am

@IronDicks wrote:
i have my days

and i was only pointing out with all these nuclear weapons around it is possible for such a thing to happen.

Meh. Most nations have trouble with nuclear weapons at the ballistic level (North Korea, for example, has yet to create one capable of passing the island of japan). I'd be more afraid of biological weapons. Easier to spread and a lot more terrifying. A lot less regulations as well @_@ But, I digress, this if far off topic, and I apologize.
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