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 Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.

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PostSubject: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:47 pm


so..yeah. SDC tuned shooter+great rapid. other than weapon selecting, my biggest question is, is 12 tgh enough for a L air? as in the picture. if i got extra slots should i tune for tgh or for tec?
._. any ideas are welcomed.
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:54 pm

You need more TGH definately. I suggest a 16 tgh minimum, but 21 being more optimal. Float Dash + accel roll are good carts to take. Unless you have a Cetusion BD fetish, I would think Gwyain BD would do better.
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:56 pm

16 or 23 tgh
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:29 pm

i would only tune the range for a sdc it may not have to be fast but i rather stun an ag before it can touch or see me and or vise versa do all speed but it cost ur ammo.
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:48 pm

A purely range tuned sdc will only hit a retard or 1 wlk fat art
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:04 pm

@Trill wrote:
You need more TGH definately. I suggest a 16 tgh minimum, but 21 being more optimal. Float Dash + accel roll are good carts to take. Unless you have a Cetusion BD fetish, I would think Gwyain BD would do better.
alright..so 16 tgh min huh...
i think i wont take FD since i just suck at it :s. acc roll..could think bout it..need to make sure theres nuff capa
btw this IS cetusion BD..thats why theres just so little tgh :/
..and i think i just cant make it to stealth. is it ok if i dont have stealth?

@Lyndon wrote:
i would only tune the range for a sdc it may not have to be fast but i rather stun an ag before it can touch or see me and or vise versa do all speed but it cost ur ammo.
duh. cuz i think if i put double great rapid there it would decrease range too much, so i did this. Played it for a few matches, its projectile speed is actually not bad.... and this thing becomes the only weapon i can hit an AG. :s yay.

@xzpwnz wrote:
A purely range tuned sdc will only hit a retard or 1 wlk fat art
^this
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:28 pm

@xzpwnz wrote:
A purely range tuned sdc will only hit a retard or 1 wlk fat art

Leastwise it will be one retard less the team has to worry about
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:59 pm

Yeah also working on SDC build. Then TGH>TEC?
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:08 pm

After you hit a minimum of 16 tgh
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:51 am

just ditch centusion.
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:37 pm

Cetusion? Really? Gwyain is infinitely better...

This SDC build seems to work for me...
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:26 pm

@R3MSpecter wrote:
Cetusion? Really? Gwyain is infinitely better...

This SDC build seems to work for me...
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gwyain can be made better, but his cetusion build would wipe the floor with your gwyain build anyday
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:50 pm

I wonder
When there are two badly built bots it depends moe on the player
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:04 pm

Someone still not realize he has zero sense of bot building.-.




Or may be just a troller.
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:11 pm

@xzpwnz wrote:
I wonder
When there are two badly built bots it depends moe on the player

when comparing builds, the playerskill should be seen as equal

if you dont do that, the whole comparison is useless

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Someone still not realize he has zero sense of bot building.-.




Or may be just a troller.

at least try comparing the two builds before you write random unrelated bullshit

edit:
oh, i just got it, instead of assuming that you wrote completly offtopic, i will just assume you wrote ontopic and told me the gwyainbuild is the better one out of the two ... way to go
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:42 pm

@Aurum_Sol wrote:
@xzpwnz wrote:
I wonder
When there are two badly built bots it depends moe on the player

when comparing builds, the playerskill should be seen as equal

if you dont do that, the whole comparison is useless

Problem: They aren't equal
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:53 pm

@xzpwnz wrote:
@Aurum_Sol wrote:
@xzpwnz wrote:
I wonder
When there are two badly built bots it depends moe on the player

when comparing builds, the playerskill should be seen as equal

if you dont do that, the whole comparison is useless

Problem: They aren't equal

if thats your argument than the following will happen:
magically any build made by a bad player becomes bad and bad builds by good players are now good

it doesnt matter if there is a perfect build, if the user is not good, the build is useless

this is why including player skill into the builds makes any comparison of said builds pointless

or in short: you start to compare the players, not the bot they build
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:40 pm

It's not my argument
It's a fact
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If I tried to argue I'd have already crushed you miserably
Two different players are never equal in the same aspect
They can be "close" to equal, but never the same
I'm talking about 2 different players with different respective builds
If the same player plays 2 builds of his own there's nothing to talk about
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:18 pm

Just take any of XZ comments with a grain of salt. He is experenced and has his playstyle worked out for what works best for him and all his comparisons are what works best for him, which typically, most are also what would work well for you. Consume his advice, see if it works for you and crap out the insults and egotrip you don't need, you'll never meet his standards(I don't even think he meets his standards).

I agree with both you, more range isn't what you want, in the higher arenas and epoch you'll have a tough time hitting anything worthwhile with that slow speed, but being an AIR weapon you don't want less range either so I'd go for the less ammo route of great rapid beta tunes. Worst case scenerio you survive a long time and have to beg or farm for a ammo resupply/long range circle.

Do the best with the bots and parts you have, tune the ones that are top of the line, namely first... the gun.
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:27 pm

Oh
It seems like the hypocritical idiot is still mad at me
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:42 am

@Aurum_Sol wrote:

Quote :
Someone still not realize he has zero sense of bot building.-.




Or may be just a troller.

at least try comparing the two builds before you write random unrelated bullshit

edit:
oh, i just got it, instead of assuming that you wrote completly offtopic, i will just assume you wrote ontopic and told me the gwyainbuild is the better one out of the two ... way to go

This "someone" is not u.-.


I said this because how bad his previous zsg, nicole build and both in guide section.
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PostSubject: Re: Any comments/advices for this build? (typical SDC build) ._.   Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:53 am

@ tggt

somehow i mistook you for arti

@ xz

i know that the players are different,
a comparison between builds however, is theorycrafting
theorycrafting usually has no room for something like "playerskill" (because, it would make any comment on a build pointless - this goes for your comments like it goes for mine or anyone elses comment)

@ dracatis

i have no problem with xz´s writing style
also: most of xz builds/suggests/plays wouldnt turn out well for me, because i have different preferences and a majorly different playstyle
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