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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptyMon May 30, 2011 4:31 pm

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this will probably be as good as i'll get her

the final levelup will probably be blast guard of stun regain.

ooo without the combat mag she still has a little hope left!

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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptyMon May 30, 2011 5:49 pm

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Yeah you can buff Elisa's stats more, but you can't hit anything that has a longer range than you.
I'd actually say get a Handy Magnum to replace the Combat Mag so you can hit stuff at ranges beyond your sword/Swords of Revealing Light, unless you're just gonna go all melee.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptyMon May 30, 2011 6:06 pm

@shima:

Although untested, it's assumed that the FLY/WLK are swapped for float dash.


@the rest of the thread

It's not bad, but the 19 STR concerns me Sad So low >.< But I guess you can't have everything..

Also, I was playing around with Elisa a bit; is it just me, or does her second hit push away the bot? Because sometimes it does; sometimes, it doesn't o.O What's the cause for that?
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptyMon May 30, 2011 6:33 pm

@ngelicdark wrote:

Also, I was playing around with Elisa a bit; is it just me, or does her second hit push away the bot? Because sometimes it does; sometimes, it doesn't o.O What's the cause for that?
There's this magical thing called "stun".
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptyMon May 30, 2011 7:46 pm

Oh so it does push away on a normal basis =.= That's..that's just great *sigh*
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptyMon May 30, 2011 9:28 pm

Stronger stuns push enemies away or lift them off the ground, the most severe stuns give knockback and make them turn a 180 degree spin.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptyTue May 31, 2011 3:42 am

@ngelicdark wrote:
@shima:

Although untested, it's assumed that the FLY/WLK are swapped for float dash.

there is flying vanguard, what about flying Elisalotte? lol

I really don't see a good built for her = =;;
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptyTue May 31, 2011 5:14 am

@FireKiller87 wrote:
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Yeah you can buff Elisa's stats more, but you can't hit anything that has a longer range than you.
I'd actually say get a Handy Magnum to replace the Combat Mag so you can hit stuff at ranges beyond your sword/Swords of Revealing Light, unless you're just gonna go all melee.

swords of revealing light doesnt let ur enemy attack. unlike chivalry.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptyTue May 31, 2011 8:54 am

Elisalotte is still pretty damn worthless unless you manage to ambush.

Her Melee needs more forward momentum, right now she has almost 25TGH on mine. and its still useless as hell cause the melee never hits.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptyFri Jun 10, 2011 12:14 am

Does anyone notice that when your wonderbit guage is full, and when you press F nothing happens? Am I the only person having this problem or is it everyone else?
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptyFri Jun 10, 2011 2:42 am

Elisalotte is a "unique" aura bot
She doesnt need to be full WG to use Aura, unlike Byakkou
Just use the Aura Option in Sub Weap
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptyFri Jun 10, 2011 11:21 am

@Senhime wrote:
Elisalotte is a "unique" aura bot
She doesnt need to be full WG to use Aura, unlike Byakkou
Just use the Aura Option in Sub Weap

I know that but what if you don't have anymore aura option in sub weapon? e.g. 0 enhanced internal core and you get your WG up by killing trees for items? you won't be able to go into aura mode again even when your WG is full, that's pretty stupid.

That's pretty much like, if your not a suicide Elisalotte you have to invest capacity on enhanced internal core because you only can go into aura mode once.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptySat Jun 11, 2011 11:23 pm

Someone needs to come up with a build that uses Lightning Edge.

Hopefully this new weapon will save her from being worthless.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptySat Jun 11, 2011 11:49 pm

@Frederica-Bernkastel wrote:
Someone needs to come up with a build that uses Lightning Edge.

Hopefully this new weapon will save her from being worthless.


Pointless cause the other aura lands stats shits on hers thoshe does look cool and is one of the few moes in the game that idk actualy look fucking mecha/scifi related
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptySun Jun 12, 2011 12:51 am

Knight theme'd moe. Not exactly high up on the mecha/sci fi scale. Maybe just not do tunes on the sword, and use it for stats, as horrid as it may be, I think that having more stats will help her more maybe.

I've actually been hit by Swords of Revealing Light several times. It seems like something you use to ambush with, then use the WB charge you got from it to attack.

I have a feeling they're going to buff her by either:

A) Increasing stats

B) Increasing WB uses, or putting it back to a regular WB use style

C)Ignore her because her sales arent great.
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptySun Jun 12, 2011 9:14 pm

I made this build for Elisa/Shock Edge that I wanted to fine tune/test, but this is the rudimentary:

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Can't use slow anyway with Lightning Edge; IIRC statuses overwrite each other (read help desk thread for info on someone testing sugoi whip with ink blob slow status debuff).

The only problem I have with this build is the meh STR and the low TGH. But I figured at least having awesome WLK speed may make up for it...


Update:

I got lightning edge last night so I popped in on Elisa... Results?

Mixed. Using lightning edge combo instead of princess chivalry can make her AURA mode last very long. It only shocks on the last hit (the thrust) and the combo is..well..meh. Short ranged, but has momentum and fairly good tracking. I might rethink on tuning slow on the lightning edge though; because it can still slow on the first few hits, then shock. Or you can skip the thrust animation and just keep the target slowed.


Also when using lightning edge as default right click, you can't shift e to the swords of revealing lights.. Minor quip I suppose...
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PostSubject: Re: Elisalotte   Elisalotte - Page 4 EmptyTue Aug 16, 2011 5:29 pm

lol, do this to use elisalotte, big scores guarenteed:

Fast charge at ONE art, alph, low or fully HP, it doesnt matter, aura or without aura it also doesnt matter, one buckler, IT MATTERS. kill it and retreat, if you need aura, do chivalary at a lonely art (broad radar needed). if you want to charge at LND get them alph HP or if they are fully HP get them from the back.

needs at least 20 WLK without aura. Remaining cost for TGH tunes
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Don't necrobump threads. Verbal warning.
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