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 [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended

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To use or not to use - Enhanced Internal Weapon
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:58 am

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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:48 pm

Rouche Barrier On
+2 ammo for first +3 ammo for second
3>5>8
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:53 pm

DX Crim ROBO's internal cart does the same thing as Crim-chan's, but is actually worth it considering DX Crim ROBO only has 1 ammo to start with and the only way to recover it is death.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:02 pm

Katalina adds 400 ammo for the main wep, 5 for STOVL each time. Total of 2 carts makes +800/+10.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:37 pm

@Iseal wrote:
Katalina adds 400 ammo for the main wep, 5 for STOVL each time. Total of 2 carts makes +800/+10.

I got her in my spare accout... when I start using that moe I was so disapointed... just extra ammo.. so useles
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:23 pm

wtf is your problem ? extra ammo equals extra flying time, what else do you possibly want ? Oo
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:55 pm

Speed or damage. The ammo is already plenty with a moving burst build.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:49 am

you do realize what that weapons sole purpose is?
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:27 am

internals arent necessary are near useless on katalina.
much better stuff u could do with that capa.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:49 pm

@Aurum_Sol wrote:
wtf is your problem ? extra ammo equals extra flying time, what else do you possibly want ? Oo

That extra fliying time have the use in Quest.. .but i Arena you need more damage and range and speed... xd! Aquila Guilr most advantage isn't the eternal fly, it's his damage on the noob homming blaster.. it deals a lot of damage to any time of bot...

As said it's better to use that cost in someting better, like TECH cause it will give you more damage to the weapons... the extra damage it prefereable vs more AMMO, specialy because her internals doesn't do good damage... but if you like it you are free to use. I use the main core as an extra weapon and I'm using another weapons instead, the core weapon is more a helper to avoid landing.. so no need for the extra ammo (Im using her as an Alpha

almost forgot! Lala and rouche data has been added.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:32 am

first:

aquilas ONLY BIG advantage is fullboost

second:

alphastrikers usually ignore eiw because of cost vs return

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That extra fliying time have the use in Quest.. .but i Arena you need more damage and range and speed... xd!

no, for that you carry a dps weapon, not a jamming/supportive type of weapon, also: not landing means being MUCH less vulnerable and that makes flying time MUCH better then pure damage output

this bullshit mindest of damage > everything in this community is propably the reason why most players suck so hard
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:42 am

Lol
I like the extra stovls
She was only fun to use until they fixed the stovl altitude glitch
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:03 am

@Aurum_Sol wrote:
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aquilas ONLY BIG advantage is fullboost
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alphastrikers usually ignore eiw because of cost vs return
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That extra fliying time have the use in Quest.. .but i Arena you need more damage and range and speed... xd!

no, for that you carry a dps weapon, not a jamming/supportive type of weapon, also: not landing means being MUCH less vulnerable and that makes flying time MUCH better then pure damage output

this bullshit mindest of damage > everything in this community is propably the reason why most players suck so hard
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:24 am

implying fullboost isnt aquilagirls main trading point
implying alphastrikers should take eiw
implying you should dps with a support/jamming weapon
implying flying time doesnt add survivability and damage for air types

different communitys use different ways of writing, that was my mistake really, i think i might have gotten it readable for your kind this time

or should i just add "facepalm.png" ?
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:03 am

Implying nothing, you infer.

Full boost is why aquila girl is really strong, the homing blaster is what most people really like though.

Taking EIW is situational, some builds, notably alpha builds that take 2 strong weapons over say 5 weaker ones can benefit.

The damage is supplemental, but really the lack of speed is what's underwhelming on it. It's meh for moving burst since other cores can do that better, and it's okay at jamming, but not as great as malice for just raping boost gauges if you ask me.

If you need more flying time, better options exist.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:06 pm

the "implying" post was idrected to rinrin, who simply said "nope.jpg" to my whole post, resulting in denying everything written in there, however since you somehow feel like writing your post i will answer to it:

the only better options for flying time are seraph wings, shaden booster and fullboost
all of these options are not possible with this bot
propellerbits are enhancing the effect of the weapon and are not an option for this reason, similar to aquilagirl they have synergy and make the bots special part even stronger

malice being an more evil jammer is most likely related to her using a jamming weapon while katalina uses a jamming/supporting weapon

that the speed is not the best is simply for balancing, imagine a boostdraining weapon with fast bullets and fast fire rate ... that also refills your own boost - that would be stupid as hell, endless harassment anyone?

just because people like homing blaster doesnt make it her strong point (if your going for a homing weapon, there are better cores, fullboost makes the bot, not the blaster [even if that is original aquilas signature])

if you carry 2 stronger weapons instead of 5 weaker ones, these 2 stronger weapons also cost more, since weapon strengh doesnt scale linear with cost you are propably better of with multiple weapons unless you prefer high toughness targets
since this is still arguable i will just mention that more bullets result in more chances to stun the target, and there are low costing weapons that stun quite alot

i will just make it simple: the only reasons to pick katalina is stovl, airsway and her coreweapon, stovl comes with brickgale boosters, airsway can be substituted with airloop and that other thing
so, shes really only good for her coreweapon, if you are not going to use it for what it is your better of not using the bot to begin with, since everything else could be done with other cores much more effectively

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i agree with eiw being situational, however, i never said it wasnt in the first place
what i said was, that people look at stuff and judge it for something that they want it to be, not what for it is (remember minelayer? that was exactly the same bullshit, people are unable to grasp the concept of the weapon and thus they label it crap)
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:51 pm

lol good discussion!

well yes more fly time is good, but I still believe the power of A chan is her core weapon, no other Blaster deals that amount of damage and have that range... yes the fullboss is realy good but, u can fly and lnd in high places like any other air, but A chan without the Core Blaster is usels, just a fly bird... not good... (but it isnt usless! its realy greath)

the EIW is good in almost all core weapons but yes for aplhas is normal to avoid it, u need that extra capa for unes and weapons
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:54 am

@Aurum_Sol wrote:
nvm =.= ufail.jpg

and requesting for seraph and eve chan's internals, are they the same as the other chibis or do they actually so something else like increase wings and railgun dmg?
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:50 pm

yes, they are the same .... u can notice that EVE doesnt have a start icon so will not get internal...
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:23 pm

requesting telsa ukko internals.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:38 pm

@Rinrin wrote:
@Aurum_Sol wrote:
nvm =.= ufail.jpg

and requesting for seraph and eve chan's internals, are they the same as the other chibis or do they actually so something else like increase wings and railgun dmg?

S. Crim-chan's Internals do increase the number of Wings available. I assume that only the first two internals affect Wings, I haven't tested the Lv6 or Lv9 ones yet.

EVE-chan's Internals do not affect the power of the EVE Cannon. They're your typical chibi internals.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:13 pm

Thoarla Nimbus and Frazia's EIW (I) gives +1 force and +10 ammo. Not much, I guess..should've gotten capa carts instead.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:36 am

Nimbus internals also drastically increase the size of the jupitizer bolts IIRC. No clue about Frazia though.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:37 pm

Updated with:
- Maxis VI
- Victory FB
- AchtSieben WT
- Gemion L and R
- Destructor MAX
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:19 am

AchtSieben WT don't have speed upgrade.
Info about Saggi IV is wrong, it's same as Saggi III above it. Copy and paste?
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