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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended EmptySat Mar 26, 2011 5:05 pm

Hi Chuky, Trill here :3

Before you write a guide, it helps to compile more bots atleast.


And try to fix your spelling, as it really affects how serious people tend to take your guide. You almost spelled Misty right, just switch that y and i. For Seraph Crim, thats not neccisarily true, since how many you get depends on your playstyle. If you survive a long time most matches, having can help, and if its depending on your playstyle, try not to reccomend or not reccomend, but give it more of a Nuetral rating (mini-edit: Urgh, I use ";x" a lot, and the forums consider it an angry face >:C)


I can add some bots to your list, since I have a few with Internal Carts.

Ouka Dayuu-
- Increases ammo of her Raizen Slash ability.
-It depends whether to get this or not, since it can be based off your playstyle. I personally like it, but as a general consensus, most people would vote not to use it.

Vanguard Fencer-
-Increases ammo of his Overdrive buff.
-Reccomend, as a good vanguard will need more than one Overdrive, unless you plan on just going kamikaze and trying to rack up points quickly.


I'll edit this post later, as I'm on a spare labtop with CB not installed
I'll get on when it finishes downloading.

But on a finishing note, this guide could be useful with more spelling corrections and a bit more bots added.
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Thanks Trill, I will update and will be fixing the spelling... will add your bot advice.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended EmptySat Mar 26, 2011 8:43 pm

You're missing quite a few effects. For example, internals make Misty's mist faster, speed up Izuna's Vanishing Jump, increase the size of Amateus' Solar Buster and give completely different stat boosts to the main weapon compared to the subweapon, Seraph's internals also increase wing duration by 4 seconds each and increase various stats for Seraph Tackle, etc.

In regards to Izuna, never take her internals. Even with both internals, Tengu BS's Fly High is faster and has more ammo, and when used in midair it'll always drop to ground height instead of sometimes resulting in resuming flight halfway down. For seraph, either take both or neither, but know that it 100% depends on your build.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended EmptySat Mar 26, 2011 9:59 pm

CS's internal doesn't buff stats in any way, but makes the explosion size ridiculously large with each one.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended EmptySat Mar 26, 2011 10:04 pm

Air Raider's internal cart increases everything: force, ammo, range, speed, lower interval. Although most would just skip it, since they're more to using AM weapons or burst shots, which the internal core weapon will only do little difference.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended EmptySat Mar 26, 2011 10:06 pm

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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended EmptySat Mar 26, 2011 11:56 pm

@Suguri wrote:
You're missing quite a few effects. For example, internals make Misty's mist faster, speed up Izuna's Vanishing Jump, increase the size of Amateus' Solar Buster and give completely different stat boosts to the main weapon compared to the subweapon, Seraph's internals also increase wing duration by 4 seconds each and increase various stats for Seraph Tackle, etc.

In regards to Izuna, never take her internals. Even with both internals, Tengu BS's Fly High is faster and has more ammo, and when used in midair it'll always drop to ground height instead of sometimes resulting in resuming flight halfway down. For seraph, either take both or neither, but know that it 100% depends on your build.

Thaks for the info I have updated it.

@Cori wrote:
Air Raider's internal cart increases everything: force, ammo, range, speed, lower interval. Although most would just skip it, since they're more to using AM weapons or burst shots, which the internal core weapon will only do little difference.

Data updated, thanks, I will also test the Internal to get the data!

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I have updated some information and applied some sorting.

Regards, all.. please add all u know!
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended EmptySun Mar 27, 2011 5:11 pm

@knyx wrote:
CS's internal doesn't buff stats in any way, but makes the explosion size ridiculously large with each one.
A bit more specifically, the explosion sizes go something like "Stardust Cannon -> Jupitizer -> Width of fully zoomed-out screen"
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended EmptySun Mar 27, 2011 6:41 pm

And that last one is especially good at clearing PS on Epoch. Tested and duly approved.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended EmptySun Mar 27, 2011 7:22 pm

Lily Rain: highly recommended if you use the Psyguns and Psyslicers a lot.
Psygun:
Ammo and Range UP, Int DOWN [!]
Psyslicer:
Force, Ammo, and Range UP


While for EVE... all it does is increase the uses of the accessory of the head part. Until you remember that's the buff which drastically cuts the powerup lockon time of the railgun. An upgrade ups the uses from 2 to 4.

Saggy Maxis: highly recommended, it makes the railgun even MORE beastly.
Force, Ammo, Range and Speed UP
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended EmptyMon Mar 28, 2011 5:12 pm

Yes, for the right bots it's quite helpful...

Squidol - +1 force, +10 range, +100 ammo. Counting it's 10 force, 90 range and 600 ammo(never mind it shoots as fast as a rage machine gun, 100 int, in a cone attack) to increase that by 16% force, 18% range and 25% ammo? Yes, totally worth it.

Saggitary Maxis II - Doesn't get quite as much out of it. He gets +1 force(only on the first one?), +30 ammo each, and +10 range. Making 1 worth it I think. I've had him run out of ammo before so having 2 might be worth it if your not carrying a second weapon somehow.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended EmptyMon Mar 28, 2011 5:32 pm

@Z741 wrote:
Lily Rain: highly recommended if you use the Psyguns and Psyslicers a lot.
Psygun:
Ammo and Range UP, Int DOWN [!]
Psyslicer:
Force, Ammo, and Range UP


While for EVE... all it does is increase the uses of the accessory of the head part. Until you remember that's the buff which drastically cuts the powerup lockon time of the railgun. An upgrade ups the uses from 2 to 4.

Saggy Maxis: highly recommended, it makes the railgun even MORE beastly.
Force, Ammo, Range and Speed UP

yeah at this moment I'm using some good ART commando and Lily Rain Maijalis is like the main Bot... After the first Internal I notice that the sub shots faster and better range... I must recomend it if you don't have plans for high cost parts. Also good for lvl 5 Lily.

Will add the Saggy info later. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended EmptyMon Mar 28, 2011 5:46 pm

Air Raider doesn't explode like C.S.
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Scorpton has the basic stat boosts (I'll get back to you on the particulars when I level it up again), in addition to a greatly increased stun rate after each upgrade.
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PostSubject: Re: [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended   [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended EmptyTue Mar 29, 2011 4:11 am

I'll list what I got from my own bots.

Patty Lop :
Increase Ammo of puppets, 4 to 8 and to 12
Worth : Hell yes !

Gwayn :
Force and Ammo
Worth : Not that much

Genbura :
Everything of the rifle excepted fire rate
Worth : Yes !

Boiledeck :
Force and Speed
Worth : Not really

Contradict :
Everything excepted fire rate
Worth : Yes

Jack Gadget :
Everything except fire rate, and especially Force
Worth : A lot !

Greinaut :
Fields are more effective
Worth : Yep


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For victory one, it's gun gets more ammo, more power, and a bit more range, maybe some more, but it's still good. YOu NEED that range for anti air otherwise they take pot shots with regular beam guns outta your range.
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Jikun Long.

Effect:

More force,More ammo (alot more) Slightly faster cast time and more range.
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@Nisa wrote:
Jikun Long.

Effect:

More force,More ammo (alot more) Slightly faster cast time and more range.

but he don't ve that much cost for it

one viper shield, one kamui, sword/blast guard took almost all of his cost [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended Th_105

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is core upgrade worth for Genbura ? [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended Th_11
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@SkyPanic wrote:
@Nisa wrote:
Jikun Long.

Effect:

More force,More ammo (alot more) Slightly faster cast time and more range.

but he don't ve that much cost for it

one viper shield, one kamui, sword/blast guard took almost all of his cost [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended Th_105

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is core upgrade worth for Genbura ? [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended Th_11

Jikun Long.

And note: Jikun Hu sucks

and sword's on jikuns are retarded.

Go dual Shields
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@Nisa wrote:
@SkyPanic wrote:
@Nisa wrote:
Jikun Long.

Effect:

More force,More ammo (alot more) Slightly faster cast time and more range.

but he don't ve that much cost for it

one viper shield, one kamui, sword/blast guard took almost all of his cost [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended Th_105

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is core upgrade worth for Genbura ? [General] Enhanced Internal Weapon (EIW)- Uses/Recomended Th_11

Jikun Long.

And note: Jikun Hu sucks

and sword's on jikuns are retarded.

Go dual Shields

i got gifted jikun long but i don't like the way she kick target into the air, but her tackle is really longer than her libro

and i often score more with kamui, not with their kick . everyone ve their own play style cheers
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Jikun's W-Tackle.

Increases amount of ammo, which is simply how many times the Jikun can "teleport" closer to the target before tackling them. I don't know if the teleport distance increases
Also increases Tackle Damage

Does not affect legs
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- Added new information
- Fixed some information.
- Added comments.

Thanks to all that posted information.
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What about Destructor series? (CN & the "regular" one)
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@DrakeHead wrote:
What about Destructor series? (CN & the "regular" one)
If you play any Destructor (CN, Girl, or regular) without taking all the internals, you're doing it wrong.
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