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PostSubject: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:03 am

absolute nothing at all and just balance adjustments on the following listed
Aletta
Digga(Rammer)
Margarethe
Vermelhoe(Aegis)

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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:23 am

If they nerf digga again, I will never forgive the damn fookin CS.
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:11 am

No, please, nerf this shit, fuck off digga spammers!
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:25 am

@xTohka wrote:
If they nerf digga again, I will never forgive the damn fookin CS.
Rammers pull will be nerfed, same for margarethe too I think. And likely Aegis barriers will be breakable now.
These nerfs pretty much for making way to new Art. meta. Digga was keeping the new arts. in check but with this newly released artillery will have their way
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:33 am

The pull thing is just ridiculous, it even pulls airs out of the sky with stupid vertical range, that makes no sense at all.
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:21 am

bummer, digga is annoying but it's handy for farming red craft stone and victory order in arcantus and trading those for gens and ALL elements. i was able to get a full 10 of ex basics.

digga is also used to handle hilti right? can you stop it from inflicting that rock status with the finisher and tune ammo drain instead?
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:24 am

I agree with the suction nerf, it is really ridiculous. A bit unfortunate that arcantus will have reduced result.

Just a tip for you guys, if you want to highscore arcantus with digga do it before this update gets live on EN.
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:18 pm

@Maelstrom wrote:
The pull thing is just ridiculous, it even pulls airs out of the sky with stupid vertical range, that makes no sense at all.

It have all the sence because it is A GRAVITY PULL. So things that are above it will be pulled harder because gravity itself helps.
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:23 pm

@Argento wrote:
@Maelstrom wrote:
The pull thing is just ridiculous, it even pulls airs out of the sky with stupid vertical range, that makes no sense at all.

It have all the sence because it is A GRAVITY PULL. So things that are above it will be pulled harder because gravity itself helps.

what makes no sense is that its gravity Pull is actually pulling you even from under him

that shit so dumb, Im on a platform under him and his shit pulls you up like some dam rag doll
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:45 pm

Balance Adjustment:
 


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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:19 pm

Digga - nerf is ok
Marge - nerf is ok (more like buff)
Verm - not sure if nerf is ok
Aletta - well, the cooldown on her barrier is a problem but I guess alpha arts can now break her barrier faster.

Now we need a nerf on Rinka's backstep spam.
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:08 am

This game is always a benefit for arts while the other stuff getting ded. It just like they asking every player that still alive to roll more for their art stuff instead of other.
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:40 am

It wasn't friendly to arts until recent release of THOSE 3 artillery.
Anyway, the overall balance adjustment is disappointing. That nerf won't solve the aegis issue much, his barrier should've made breakable . More of it fucked other 2 modules with wb nerf.
Rinkas need to be further buffed by adding melt debuff on those grenades and mines
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:52 am

Yes, buff the easiest unit in the game even more.
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:05 am

Well one of the very few land unit that could counter that "easiest unit in the game" got nerfed not once, not twice but thrice because it gave trauma to campers, so now when it's decided to be a stall meta does it matter much?
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:17 am

Marg buff looks a bit weird what does it mean by melee attributes, its saying the sub got buff right?

atm Aegis nerf was more like overall nerf to the other verz. instead of actual nerf towards aegis, although honestly it wont matter much since the Titan module no one uses, and the other one benefits from spamming debuffs everywhere like a water gun,

>aletta shield can take less hits now, how is this even possible I dont even remember the shield breaking from taking hits ;V

what they should buff is Eve

although i do agree cs keeps nerfs the melee's but not actually solving anything about the art meta but then again isn't it just CBEN say people keep saying art meta is being kept tight in CBJP
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:16 am

@elmatalast wrote:
Well one of the very few land unit that could counter that "easiest unit in the game" got nerfed not once, not twice but thrice because it gave trauma to campers.

What bot was that?

@topic
Digga and Aleta nerf seems ok, but that Aegis nerf seems like fucking nothing.

Rynka nerf? No, she doesnt need a nerf, she just needs to be deleted from the game.
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:38 am

@Maelstrom wrote:
@elmatalast wrote:
Well one of the very few land unit that could counter that "easiest unit in the game" got nerfed not once, not twice but thrice because it gave trauma to campers.

What bot was that?

Resha perhaps?
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:36 am

I just hope Gaia Hammer is still useful farming arcantus...

Aletta is still immune to nukes lol.

I have to see how smaller Aegis vermelho's barrier is now. Yet, i think the real nerf will be when CS removes de 60% guard from her. Seriously, why she even needs this if she have a self barrier? You can't attack her from distance cauise of the barrier, and you can't attack her from nearby cause you'll receive more damage from being inside the barrier than inflict to her :v (Still think that Rouche should have the best barrier mechanics in the game).

@Sakura1 wrote:
what they should buff is Eve

Nah... Eve is an AIR with a very easy to hit nuke and CV. She definitely do not need a buff more than some other AIRs out there like Both FC Fengs (excluding school that is nothing than a reskin).
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:01 am

Maybe that means you can hit Aegis now with aoe damage.
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:16 am

Barrier's size comparison.
Left one before nerf right one after nerf.

Also after nerf it takes 50 seconds to refill her wb, but that if you're not hitting meta cactus or other objects.
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:20 am

It appears to be a Thoarla-sized barrier now. but the 60% guard still makes me mad >:v
Its not like a gigan nuke will be much effective against it.
Also, i wonder if the other modules can be used in the new Cast vermelho.

@elmatalast wrote:
Also after nerf it takes 50 seconds to refill her wb, but that if you're not hitting meta cactus or other objects.

Valkyria bits charge faster if they receive damage?
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:37 am

GiganDick's cannon is probably one of those thing that can go through pre-nerf aegis barrier.
Other modules can be used in Vermelho Type B.
Vermelho bits charge faster if you(vermelho user) do damage. Probably takes 4-5 tree/meta cactus to refill
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:13 pm

Idky they nerf the dmg output on a "long" cd melee, guess I'll really try the malice sword replica or something (or am I supposed to go R:HS now?????). The size reduction seems a bit meh, but maybe it'll at least help against lazy Support score farming. I wonder if the WB nerf will even be active without the aegis module. Personally I think if they should change anything about aegis' WB's buff effects, they should remove the CV from that module (and only that one). Never got why she even has it when it just counters potential counters.
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PostSubject: Re: 15/02/2018 balance adjustment   Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:36 pm

I would prefer if they remove the 60% all guard instead.
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