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Fuwakomoriya
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PostSubject: HM Thoarla   Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:13 am

Merry Christmas Mortals.

[Robot Name]
Divine Thoarla

[Parts]
BD: Divine Thoarla BD (High Movement Mode)
 : Galileo System(default)
 LG: Divine Thoarla LG [Crimson Veil] [Great Capacity] [Great Capacity]
  BS: Divine Thoarla BS [EX High Tech Alpha] [EX High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Beta]
 HD: Divine Thoarla HD [Force] [EX High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Beta]
  HDAC: +1 tec +1 fly [EX High Tech Beta]
  FCAC: +1 tec +1 fly [EX High Tech Beta]
  WP: Divine Thoarla HD@
 AM: Divine Thoarla AM [Force] [High Shooter] [High Shooter]
  WP: Divine Thoarla AM@ [EX High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
  WP: +1 FLY [EX High Tech Alpha] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
 AM: Divine Thoarla AM2 [EX High Tech Beta] [Life] [High Boost Beta]
  WP: Divine Thoarla AM2@ [EX High Tech Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
  WP: -

[Config Check]
COST: OK
BS: OK
LG: OK
AURA: OFF

[Stats]
TYPE: 空
SIZE: L
COST: 1590
CAPA: 1590
HP: 680
STR: -15
TEC: 40
WLK: 1
FLY: 38
TGH: 18

LEVEL: 12

[Cartridges]
Capacity +70×4
Beam Guard
Fast Recovery
Moving Burst
Zero Cartridge×4
Glide Boost

[Material]
Hidora Cosmos×50
Fudara Cosmos×39
Midoro Cosmos×90
Yoguru Cosmos×45
Ones Cosmos×2
Fourda Cosmos×2
Red Chip×115
Blue Chip×10
Yellow Chip×45
Green Chip×30
Rainbow Chip×112
Power Amp×1200
Stabilizer×65
Engine Shaft×1200
Turbo Charger×45
Physical Stone×67
Strike Metal×8
Scope Lens×42
Rapid Crystal×1266
Drum Magazine×27
Guide Circuit×47
Acid Gel×46
Hard Plate×50
Hulk Meteorite×400
Screw Bolts×600
Steel Wheel×600
Miracle Ammonite×220
Shining Feather×220
Generic Element×120
Superior Element×30
Tech Element×90
Boost Element×10


This build is very similar to what i use, altho mine uses 2x High capa but still has more cost with 38/11 fly&wlk.

For drives

Boost drive < this is what i use: you survive more ok?

Armor drive: What the fuck is wrong with you? why would you use armor drive on mobile airs? NEVER DO THIS.

Burst drive: i recommend using this, HM thoarla runs out of ammo fast. This will help you a little bit with the ammo issue (BUT YOU WILL STILL LOSE AMMO FAST REGARDLESS) kinda dangerous because you have to manually raise your altitude unlike boost drive.


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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:51 am

You need to have at least 1000 HP for her to even be playable to begin with.

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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:44 am

1k hp or go home Shin :v
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:00 am

why would i ever trade cost efficiency & performance just to have more hp?
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:05 am


t-thanks santa
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:20 am

I don't understand much about Thoarlas but I have a few questions
If you are going to use Augment Thrusters anyway, can't you use 2 High Betas instead of 2 High Alphas?
Is Revenge CV any useful given that you have 18 TGH?

On a side note...
I'd consider picking one more Capa. cart afterall
GC=110-60=+50
Her Capa=70-15=+55 and 15 HP

Well, here's my commoner opinion, :v
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:33 am

@Kyon wrote:
I don't understand much about Thoarlas but I have a few questions
If you are going to use Augment Thrusters anyway, can't you use 2 High Betas instead of 2 High Alphas?
Is Revenge CV any useful given that you have 18 TGH?

On a side note...
I'd consider picking one more Capa. cart afterall
GC=110-60=+50
Her Capa=70-15=+55 and 15 HP

Well, here's my commoner opinion, :v

Yes, Having 1 CV even if you have 18 tgh will help remember you're playing a fat air unit. (this tune is mostly for stat fights where you 1v1 people and hope to come out on top)

and if i my build didn't have 1 cv i would skip another capa cart for sword guard.
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:28 am

You Are using too much Ex High tech Beta.
I removed The handheld, and Change one of the High Shooter to Great Life getting more HP at the cost of Some Speed (still 352 range 418 Speed) or you can Use A High Rapid Beta and use the extra capa to add more Hp.

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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:43 am

@Argento wrote:
You Are using too much Ex High tech Beta.
I removed The handheld, and Change one of the High Shooter to Great Life getting more HP at the cost of Some Speed (still  352 range 418 Speed) or you can Use A High Rapid Beta and use the extra capa to add more Hp.

HM Thoarla:
 

I updated the build, because i noticed that i did have too much beta tunes.

@Fuwakomoriya wrote:
why would i ever trade cost efficiency & performance just to have more hp?
This tho.
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:55 am

I can build it better but I am lazy and busy :v
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:47 am

@Fuwakomoriya wrote:

Yes, Having 1 CV even if you have 18 tgh will help remember you're playing a fat air unit. (this tune is mostly for stat fights where you 1v1 people and hope to come out on top)

and if i my build didn't have 1 cv i would skip another capa cart for sword guard.

I see, I'll keep this idea in mind. Ty
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:51 am

I builded one and went with 3x HS much fun sadly its not really worth it, unless u now u enjoy sniping which si fun but meh the highest dmg score i gotten was 3.2K sometimes 2.6K just bc >amo

although i didnt bother using her boost drain gun but im just too lazy at this point to hold r and l
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:20 am

@Argento wrote:
You Are using too much Ex High tech Beta.
I removed The handheld, and Change one of the High Shooter to Great Life getting more HP at the cost of Some Speed (still  352 range 418 Speed) or you can Use A High Rapid Beta and use the extra capa to add more Hp.

HM Thoarla:
 

Why the fuck would you sacrifice weapon performance for HP
Is this what CBEN thinks is a good idea now
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:21 am

Yes. HP is META. XD
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:00 pm

I avoid overtuning weapons for more hp, yes
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:12 pm

We need to talk about that 1/38 glide boost
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:35 pm

@That_Wiesel_Guy wrote:
We need to talk about that 1/38 glide boost

PAPA NO!
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:26 pm

>there's such a thing as overtuning

Overtuning a weapon is never a bad idea, unless you're overtuning range.
Come on guys.
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:30 pm

If your weapon is already hitting 90% ~ 95% of the shoots, I see no reason to waste more capa
increasing speed, unless if you need to increase the range too for some reason.

Also, I am mostly referring to stuff like "hurr durr 3x hs".
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PostSubject: Re: HM Thoarla   Wed Dec 27, 2017 4:15 pm

There's no problem with 3x HShooter in certain situations, and even in this situation I'd opt for Force/HShooter/GRapid, or swap GRapid for another HShooter depending on its stock speed/range ratio.
What is your paranoia against tuning a weapon to its fullest potential

Another 50 HP isn't going to magically make you kill someone faster. That's what weapons are for.
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