which is better?

Always Drunk Posts : 2073 Join date : 2010-12-19

Berz is better

Angery Posts : 280 Join date : 2015-10-24

Here i made a simple Berz P build and as you can see you need to build it fat, and this build isn't very good enough.

Berz P:: [Robot Name]
Berzelius Girl

[Parts]
BD： Berzelius Girl BD3
　: Greed Servant(default)
　LG: Berzelius Girl LG2 [High Capacity] [Great Capacity] [Great Capacity]
　　BS: Summer Nobori Flag BSJ [Life]
　　　BS: Berzelius Girl BS [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech] [EX High Tech]
　HD: Berzelius Girl HD3 [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha] [High Tech Alpha]
　　HDAC: +1 tec +5 capa [EX High Tech]
　　FCAC: +1 tec +5 capa [EX High Boost]
　AM: Berzelius Girl AM3 [Ranger] [Ranger] [EX High Boost Beta]
　　WP: -
　　WP: Greed Weapon
　　　WP: Persis Missile [Great Rapid Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta]
　　　WP: -
　AM: Berzelius Girl AM4 [Ranger] [Ranger] [EX High Boost Beta]
　　WP: -
　　WP: Greed Weapon
　　　WP: Persis Missile [Great Rapid Beta] [EX High Boost Beta]
　　　WP: Anomaly Bazooka [Force] [Shooter] [Shooter]

[Config Check]
COST: OK
BS: OK
LG: OK
AURA: OFF

[Stats]
TYPE: 砲
SIZE: S
COST: 1605
CAPA: 1605
HP: 590
STR: 1
TEC: 40
WLK: 5
FLY: 31
TGH: 9

LEVEL: 10

[Cartridges]
Capacity +80×5
Beam Guard
Short Boost
Quick Boost
Moving Burst
Accele Roll

Subject: Re: which is better? Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:36 pm

Pesado

Genuine Drunk Posts : 1651 Join date : 2015-07-28

Telling a newbie to make a 1600 cost berz P LOL. Don't listen to argento like I said Berz P is not worth tuning so don't even buy a second set of her weapons. wait till you get the original then you can tune the original and buy a second set of the original weapons.

Subject: Re: which is better? Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:59 am

@Ese

@Argento wrote:: Here i made a simple Berz P build and as you can see you need to build it fat, and this build isn't very good enough.

He was actually pointing out how bad Berz P is by showing a simple build.

Grand Poster Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 907

>How bad Berz P is

r we playin the same game?

Angery Posts : 280 Join date : 2015-10-24

@Trill wrote:: >How bad Berz P is

r we playin the same game?

Berz P is bad compared to normal Berz or Calin (or Pepen G, or Icy GL or Lisel or Gathima G or Crimrose Phy or almost any Alpha Art Girl).
Berz P is good compared to Froglander (and i'm not sure about that) Laughing

Grand Poster Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 907

Berz P using both Greed Weapon I & II is definitely superior to the original. Even disregarding Greed Weapon II, Berz P's core is EXACTLY THE SAME as original, except her tackle now inflicts boost drain. That alone makes her core superior. If you don't believe me, just watch Vyo shit on half the community with her currently.

She's a bot that requires having the original to make her work, but when she does, she's super strong. But nah guys, she completely sucks, let's just keep parroting each other like retards and provide no actual help.

Subject: Re: which is better? Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:23 am

Berz P have less reignition ammo right?

Subject: Re: which is better? Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:28 am

@Frizz wrote:: Berz P have less reignition ammo right?

This is what I heard too, but I can't confirm.

Grand Poster Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 907

@Frizz wrote:: Berz P have less reignition ammo right?

It gains two less ammo in exchange for being able to steal boost, which is a worth while trade-off IMO. Reignition is really something you don't want to use flippantly to begin with.

Either way, my point is still that she is perfectly fine and strong given that you can get original Berz. Telling someone this is way better advice than just saying she's garbage and not worth playing. What if he gets an original Berz and because nobody told him, he doesn't even consider it? etc

Adept Poster Posts : 989 Join date : 2014-06-08

@Trill wrote:: r we playin the same game?

I'm going to sue you for copyright!

Grand Poster Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 907

You can't copyright calling people dumb, unfortunately.

Subject: Re: which is better? Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:37 am

Yet, for now he will probably be better building Calin, since he probably still don't
have the resources to build berz P anyway...

Grand Poster Posts : 3071 Join date : 2011-02-26 Age : 907

@Maelstrom wrote:: Yet, for now he will be probably be better building Calin, since he probably still don't
have the resources to build berz P anyway...

Right, sure. I never intended to disagree. But calling something to a new player especially, shit when it objectively isn't, is just bad form.

You can talk about which requires more resources, needs things he doesn't have yet, would be harder to play, or etc as reasons not to choose her yet. These are valid reasons. Saying she's shit is just misinforming people.

Angery Posts : 280 Join date : 2015-10-24

In other words, is shit until you get the right OP parts, (More or less that applies to all bots in CB).
>Go with Calin.

Subject: Re: which is better? Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:40 pm

So unless you have the original Berz, you won't be able to unleash Berz P's full potential. Yeah, I see what you mean now Trill.

Newcomer Posts : 9 Join date : 2017-01-05

well i don't have the original Berz for now, but if i get her i will do a build with the two of them, for now i will yse calin and try to gain some uc and matirials and will wait for when there will be ex coin events and such and try to get her from there, and you are all helpful thanks Smile

Newcomer Posts : 9 Join date : 2017-01-05

just one last thing, can someone give me a build for calin, and am not sure how to build her, like tech/walk or tech/fly?

Subject: Re: which is better? Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:49 pm

this is my build (if I haven't changed anything)

Spoiler:: [Robot Name]
Karin

[Parts]
BD： Karin BD
　: Missile Bit(default)
　LG: Karin LG [Ranger] [Ranger] [Tough]
　　WP: Karin LG@2
　HD: Karin HD [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
　　HDAC: Hawk Radar Gear [EX Great Tech Alpha]
　　FCAC: Sanae's Hairpiece [EX Great Tech Alpha]
　BS: Chloe BS2 [EX Great Tech Alpha] [EX Great Tech Alpha]
　AM: Karin AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
　AM: Karin AM2 [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
　　WP: Pirate Cannon [High Range Alpha] [High Range Alpha] [Life]
　WP: Karin's Skirt [Ranger] [Ranger] [Tech]
　WP: Karin's Shoulder Bag [Eagle] [Eagle] [Boost]

[Config Check]
COST: OK
BS: OK
LG: OK
AURA: OFF

[Stats]
TYPE: 砲
SIZE: S
COST: 1370
CAPA: 1370
HP: 584
STR: -10
TEC: 40
WLK: 7
FLY: 38
TGH: 9

LEVEL: 10

[Cartridges]
Capacity +70×6
Beam Guard
Blast Guard
Float Dash
Quick Boost