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PostSubject: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:03 pm

I have air bots i would like to tune but not sure how to:
Alcy Melee with remote bits
Vanessa(Melee)
Mikoto(Full Moon)
Fractious Girl
Mialy A
Bikini Eve??? not sure about this one
Malca
Saya Starlight??? not sure about this one either
Himari Strahl??? just got her


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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:35 pm

I'm curious about that path of Alcy too, but i think the idea is to balance both Str and Tec, try to get them higher but never force it, since it's not possible to get 40 Str and Tec plus 38 Fly lol. Rather, get said Fly, weapon tunes, hp, and custom air dash if you can afford it.
Because using up a reboost ammo just to doge or escape shit is not worth it, although unlike many, her reboost don't really have a cooldown so you might accidentally used it up just to evade shits.
Another advantage of this path is that you can use bits unless you dunked either stats for another.
However i have no idea how will speed tunes interact with the remote bits shot of her.
The ammo is really low too so try to not simply shit them.

For Fractulus Girl you need to decide whether to carry additional weapon or not, it will cost you a lot if you do though. But no doubt the firepower will not disappoint if you have weapons that can synergize with her owns. I've also seen people going for retardedly high hp of 800~900 builds on her, sacrificing weapon and weapon tunes.
Also consider one of the three of the custom movement carts in case you were talking about the original Frac, since she lack one.

Mialy eh, i thought yours was already tuned? You are not bad with her at all as far i can remember...

Never tuned my Yukata Eve ( Bikini Eve ) But i think she's just like any standard Air shooter, some people let her hold SBC cannon though, else just go for high hp for yeah you know why, hp is meta and not to mention she'll need it even more for the rageboost.

Which type of Malca? But regardless she is another simple air lol, sinply go 40/38 and you can consider hShooters and Grapids on her weapon...

Don't have Saya but, her bits don't work without Str so never dunk them, if i am not mistaken there are already some threads talking about her and other bots, you might want to dig around while waiting for fresh opinions?


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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Fri Dec 23, 2016 12:55 am

idk if original malca is still viable since I haven't used mine
for a long time due to the need of a build revamp, but she is
pretty much the same as any regular air, just go 40tec, 38fly
and the basic air carts. You can either make her alpha with
the AM + rod or focus on rod + single shooter tune. I don't
think she needs speed on the rod at all unless if you want to
tune some more range, so I would just do force tunes, if you
want to tune something on the AM for alpha, just do a single
force tune and you are good.

she is a bit short on capa though...
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:52 am

Then i probably suck ass with Wayra lol, all those speed tunes but barely hitting anything.
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:22 am

but I am talking about the original, they aren't the same...
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:02 am

my mialy a is not tuned but i put shields on it to reduce chances of it dying right away and yes i have normal malca and fractious girl but gun if i was to go that path what gun would be best
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:47 am

Full Moon: og Mikoto? Get better arms, tune a hglad on the orbs, the rest is preference. I think most people take lunar waltz and dragon soul. The bit is there but you need to invest a level, your choice again. Her melee has hyper armor except for the opener, so you might want cc+. Unless you're framelagging like a slum baby, do yourself a favour and don't waste capa on slow. If you want to be a clown do a 3x hglad and hit people on the other side of the planet lel

Fractulus Girl: i suppose a "serious" build includes a Force-tune on all her mains. The rest would be Fly and Tec. She's relatively simple to build, if you can't find anything, just look for a Harukane build, Frac is almost the same thing, build wise.

Mialy A: This is an AIR shooter with a WB that doesn't ignore 0 Tec/Str. Personally I'd ditch the shields for normal handhelds. All she needs are Fly and Tec. Can't remember if her EIW is affecting the cannon (I think it does). You could try to get a farmin weapon if you're insecure abt. the ammo, considering her range, she could get into ammo trouble if people can't hit her.

Malca: same as above, except for the bit part of course. I tuned speed on my rod and never regretted it, I used to have an alt account with Malca as a crutch and didn't put any tunes on the weapons which was okay to, I like her with extra speed though. You can do a force tune on tue arm if you want. It doesn't do that much, but it's a nice to have sidearm. Some people like MB on her, I tried that once and I have no clue why one would do that. If you've got capa issues on her put the handhelds away.

Saya: easy to build to, but very discouraging to play as (my opinion). Some people prefer proppy bits, but I think her drones are fine for more dmg.
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:31 pm

Its important to judge what to tune based on how much material, how many harmonics and slot procs you have. ( many be UC? EX tuning is costly)
if you are on a budget, tune mialy a, 0 weapon tunes required, just 40 tec, 38 fly with 1 str left over for bits.
Also, Eve BF is a good core. take off the original gun and give her an SBC.
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:54 pm

Why Eve's original weapon is bad? It looks okay for me...
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:36 am

Eve BF's pea shooters are 8 force per bullet. the way they are set up only works on fat targets. other cases, its a very inefficient weapon with low damage output and range. if we talking about original eve and school eve's peashooter, those are actually good with 20 something force and shell based. BF is beam based.
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:24 am

@WhiteTofuMagic wrote:
Its important to judge what to tune based on how much material, how many harmonics and slot procs you have. ( many be UC? EX tuning is costly)
if you are on a budget, tune mialy a, 0 weapon tunes required, just 40 tec, 38 fly with 1 str left over for bits.
Also, Eve BF is a good core. take off the original gun and give her an SBC.
I have over 300 generics and over 150 slots protectors and 2mill couple of the plates for cost increase i was plaining to wait for special event to start tuning i have arts i am not so good at tuning them i tuned asphe before she was narfed and got tuned mialy T
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:20 am

Took you long enough to respond, 300 generics' not much though. How about Gkappa mats?
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:43 am

@Facepalmer wrote:
Took you long enough to respond, 300 generics' not much though. How about Gkappa mats?
I got about 8 and over 100 slot protectors
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:15 am

Then you can consider going for a heavy Fract, or rather, she is the only one in your list that will ever need triple Gkappaing, for dual extra weapons path.
Not sure if it is still worth it in the current meta though.
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:31 am

iirc popular Frac build is one flowering gun (CD) and whatever you want to put in her second hand. The only thing I remember was that parasol though (the rapid fire one, "chocolate" I believe?)
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:08 am

@Zwiebel Force wrote:
iirc popular Frac build is one flowering gun (CD) and whatever you want to put in her second hand. The only thing I remember was that parasol though (the rapid fire one, "chocolate" I believe?)

Hm i do remember seeing flowering gun Fracts around...
This is also good, more like balanced build, else dual weapons will need you to dunk a lot of Health and Tec, Str too i guess.
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:41 am

I think it's less abt. the cost (Frac is a capa queen if you don't take too many convenience cards) and more abt. the fact that Flowering glitches the CD for her burst (and fucks your framerate sometimes).
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:30 pm

Bikini Eve: 40 Tec, 7 WLK + 38 FLY, Glide Boost, keep 1 str for prop bit. Preferably use SBC Beam Cannon on her, if not then you can use her stock weaponry. It's not too bad with some hshooters.
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:55 pm

Just got Himari Strahl
found I have Akane
Akane PR
Haruka JT
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:09 am

Dy-chan the Misunagi fan! OvO

I considered getting Himari too, with my last DX coin, but I ended up buying a gara ticket and then I rolled Frac RU. Himari would probably be super fun, if her dmg would be a little more practical.
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:56 am

@Zwiebel Force wrote:
Dy-chan the Misunagi fan! OvO

I considered getting Himari too, with my last DX coin, but I ended up buying a gara ticket and then I rolled Frac RU. Himari would probably be super fun, if her dmg would be a little more practical.
it would been better if her ecm missles didn't scatter
like that
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PostSubject: Re: Learning Air/Zero Type Tuning   Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:18 pm

@dyshaun wrote:
@Zwiebel Force wrote:
Dy-chan the Misunagi fan! OvO

I considered getting Himari too, with my last DX coin, but I ended up buying a gara ticket and then I rolled Frac RU. Himari would probably be super fun, if her dmg would be a little more practical.
it would been better if her ecm missles didn't scatter
like that
just making sure ya know, himari is a alpha air and you're suppose to lead with the other gun, the scatter missiles are just to tag targets to set up for her slow turn inflicting gun. once tagged you don't have to alpha but ya can to refresh the debuffs.
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