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PostSubject: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:43 am

I came back after a 4+ year absence. Played a few arena matches with my old 2012 team and got handled so badly that my new asshole is still raw.
What's the new meta like nowadays? The bunch of free tickets for anniversary/thanks/whatever got me a few fancy new bots as well: EX Lazflamme, Corona Cougar, Malca and Elcott.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:06 am

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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:24 am

Don't listen to this guy.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:41 am

Doesn't a little part of you die inside when you ask anything "meta" related for this game?
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:43 am

@reVelske wrote:
Doesn't a little part of you die inside when you ask anything "meta" related for this game?

Always. But I like to know what's going on after 4 years, even considering the playerbase is tiny now.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:55 am

I'll lay it out plain and simple. Current CB is just a gigantic shitfest of retarded airs spewing debuffs out the ass from 1 million kilometres away, borderline invincible airs, and a playable boss level character.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:11 am

@Diabolical wrote:
Don't listen to this guy.
Don't listen to diablical he is just a bot hipster.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:25 am

what the fuck does that even mean
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:29 am

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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:42 am

wait what does being a bot hipster have to do with game knowledge
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:53 am

Nothing. He's just throwing words around.

Re-learn the basic controls and how to properly shoot/dodge shit before you try anything serious in the arena again.

Arena's mostly made up of one of two things depending on who's on and what the general consensus of bots are: 60% melee, 40% AlphARTs/AlphAIRs OR 40% ARTs, 40% AIRs & 20% SUPs, just from what i've seen anyways.

Most rooms start out with the first combo, then when a healer enters the match it generally shifts towards the 2nd combo after a match or two.

Unless either Baphogridr Girl or Alice Read enters the room. After that, the room becomes a bottomless pit of sorrow for both sides.


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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:56 am

i think it's 40% ARTs, 35% AIRs, 20% LNDs and 5% SUPs
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:49 am

Well, now everything that has acess to the moving burst cart
can upgrade it to long moving burst through the core tune system,
what leads to a meta filled with a lot of alpha strike bullshit,
especially airs who can shoot things over 400 range due to their
alphastrike setups...

Besides this, the major threats in the meta are bikers, alices
and baphogridr, with alice being the worst of the three...
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:11 pm

Also important to note that ever since ARTs gained mobility like never before, they can now counter LNDs as effective as they do AIRs.
In other words, any melee bots will need one helluva HP and veil/parry to even get close to ARTs.

Man, I hate high stun rates.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:15 pm

@Astral_Dono wrote:
Nothing. He's just throwing words around.

Re-learn the basic controls and how to properly shoot/dodge shit before you try anything serious in the arena again.

Arena's mostly made up of one of two things depending on who's on and what the general consensus of bots are: 60% melee, 40% AlphARTs/AlphAIRs OR 40% ARTs, 40% AIRs & 20% SUPs, just from what i've seen anyways.

Most rooms start out with the first combo, then when a healer enters the match it generally shifts towards the 2nd combo after a match or two.

Unless either Baphogridr Girl or Alice Read enters the room. After that, the room becomes a bottomless pit of sorrow for both sides.

^^ thanks
Do the old go-to weapons still function or are there tons of better shit nowadays?
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:00 pm

tell me what you've got in your garage and what you consider to be "go-to" weaponry
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:27 pm

Titan Zooka got buff remember

that shit is good now
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:02 pm

@Maelstrom wrote:
Well, now everything that has acess to the moving burst cart
can upgrade it to long moving burst through the core tune system,
what leads to a meta filled with a lot of alpha strike bullshit,
especially airs who can shoot things over 400 range due to their
alphastrike setups...

Besides this, the major threats in the meta are bikers, alices
and baphogridr, with alice being the worst of the three...

You're forgetting Homura, Moray and Celica.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:59 pm

@Kuzuha wrote:
Celica.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:10 pm

there's been a speed creep. seems like very recent bots have been getting strong defense gimmicks. oh there's been a massive HP creep, no fully built bot has less than 500hp. Capa tunes are way easier to do. rainbowchips are no longer rare.

ask around about drives and core tunes, people don't list them on their calculated builds. you can check these to get a feel, new content at top of each.
https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=CAI%253D&q=cosmic+break
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cosmic+break+demo
http://www.cosmicbreakfanforum.com/f31-gameplay-questions-discussions

unrelated, i'm still bothered by Natasha's shield, seems like the worst defense gimmick.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:35 pm

it's not the subject for this thread, but I do agree, I don't see the
need of such heavy mobility penalty for her siege mode, something
like sasha's shield would be enough tbh, or something like -30%
speed with dash restriction...
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:40 pm

@Diabolical wrote:
@Kuzuha wrote:
Celica.

Yes.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:54 pm

Celica turns your guns into Arte Maid AMs from across her team and farther than you can see.

and natasha's shield has the worst penalty of all the defensive gimmicks, i can't get over it, wish it were like k shield or something so it could at least fully block something.
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:58 pm

just make it 99% reduction hurrr
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PostSubject: Re: What's the meta like nowadays?   Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:17 am

@Sakura1 wrote:
just make it 99% reduction hurrr
She already has 99% beam reduction and it solves nothing. One Armada drone and it's over for Nat.
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