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PostSubject: Sagittary Maxis III build   Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:19 pm

oh boy
Maxis III with single shooter and still shooter sound fun (\ (U w U) /)
My build :
 
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:54 pm

Any fat ART that's standing still while shooting is a free target to any melee inbound on you, especially with Saggi lacking anything good in self-defense carts.
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:01 am

but i use bloody star LG for emergency escape :<
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:30 am

Beam Guard will benefit you a lot more than Sniper Sight IMHO, and I maintain the opinion that FLY Arts > WLK Arts for anything that isn't some modern broken Arts with gazillion ways of screwing over melees as well as autoplay weapons that don't benefit much from elevated positioning.

Oh and you'd be able to squeeze more overall stats out of a FLY build whilst not even needing a Great Capa. Man, people sure love their Great Capa these days.

Oh and you really only gonna be able to get the most out of your Alba HD with FLY.
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:41 am

This is the same build you have, i don't know why you have the ALBATREOS HD but i change it for a NEON NEOS HD (uc bot 3s) , now you don't need the CAPA tune, thanks to that i change sniper sight for the other capa cart and you can change 5 run to tank for extra HP.

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@reVelske: Boost run is the only movement cart for Sagittary Maxis III, so 40/8 is very good.


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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:11 am

thank guy for advice =w= b
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:29 am

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i don't know why you have the ALBATREOS HD

Because it's one of the best short/mid distance defense Saggi can get for a reasonable cost, otherwise you are completely helpless when someone does manage to get on top of you, and they WILL.

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@reVelske: Boost run is the only movement cart for Sagittary Maxis III, so 40/8 is very good.

You don't need movement carts, they are suppose to complement/elevate a bot's strength, not cover its weakness, and I'd happily argue Saggi's strength isn't on the ground. With 40/8 BR, your may be able to delay someone, but if someone has their eyes on you (and they will, with you being the size that you are), they will get to you, 40/8 BR or not. FLY, on the other hand, (especially with Accel Roll) can actually take you to safety (map be willing, at least).
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:05 am

i try saggi with fly base and accel roll and keep Albatreos HD
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:49 am

I Make this build for Fly Saggi, i don't know what parts you have but i used 2 Raystag AM 2s, you can get them in arena (or buy the raystag 2s in shop but i say no to that).

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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:58 am

This kind of bot is my Killica's favorite food and if
I find this on arena you are as good as dead unless
if you have an Janna, Poppy or Braum to peel for you...
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:21 am


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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:45 am

Sorry bro, but she is hungry due to the lack of good targets since
CS had the bright idea to add anti-melee bullshit on everything...
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:16 am

No matter the build, if you cannot aim, then I wish you luck shooting down gunner birds.

If they did not shoot you down first.

Also, as Mael said, ARTs can't survive LNDs unless you happen to be an alpha striker. Especially considering Saggi does not deal additional debuffs, thus it's not really worth investing on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:30 am

LazFlamme wrote:
ARTs can't survive LNDs unless you happen to be an alpha striker.

There's this thing called positioning and utilizing of obstacles and platforms, despite the direction of the game in the last few years, it's really not just a simple matter of "who can hit the hardest".

Of course, can't blame people for not knowing if they never step out of their comfort zone.
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:04 pm

LazFlamme wrote:

Also, as Mael said, ARTs can't survive LNDs unless you happen to be an alpha striker. Especially considering Saggi does not deal additional debuffs, thus it's not really worth investing on it.

I didn't said this...
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:34 pm

Maelstrom wrote:
This kind of bot is my Killica's favorite food and if
I find this on arena you are as good as dead
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:42 pm

Non alphas can survive melees even better than alphas
because they usually have better mobility...
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:27 pm

Idk how alpha ing and none alpha relates to mobility considering only difference is amount of guns......my shiy are always fast no matter wut
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:03 pm

I heard Saggi is better with WLK than FLY, because he can shoot while running backwards for a quicker escape, and it's easier to aim his guns while running than flying.
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:50 pm

^ The kickback is irrelevant unless you are a Genbu, the ease of aim is circumstantial.
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:03 pm

=w= yeah i find really old video about saggi , i thought wlk is better i dun know
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:05 am

See also:

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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:21 am

You shouldn't be wasting your time hitting grounded units anyways, unless there's literally nothing better to do at least (and there will, if you have Broad Radar).

Try shoving parts from your other bots on your Saggi and level it to a point where it gets Boost Run, then take him out for a spin in the arena, or hell, even the vs AI arena stuff whatever it's called, get a feel of things, see whatever you are more comfortable with or more willing to try get comfortable with.

Also, my build, with actual optimized tunes and part choices that are BiS (or at least almost), High Boost Beta + High Tech Beta is the most cost efficient way to tune those two stats, assuming you have WLK and slots to spare.

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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:49 am

I already played both wlk and fly variants with the original
saggy and found it to be much better with the fly build...
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PostSubject: Re: Sagittary Maxis III build   Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:50 am

Besides that if you really want to use the Still Shooter core tune you will want FLY over WLK anyways, because no matter what, you're going to be standing still when shooting most of the time, so you may as well use the better option for when you ARE moving (Which is FLY)
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