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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:59 am

New Core Tunes:
 
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:04 am

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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 9:50 am

Ugh, may wait to see how are the gara rates before consider rolling.

Other than Alice, homura, purple-berz and melfi nothing interest me much. I don't remember if that yukata eve is zero or not.

I want EO Melfi though.
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:23 am

Yukata Eve is a Bikini Eve reskin.
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:43 am

Single is Best is perfect for gunners.
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:36 am

@LazFlamme wrote:
Single is Best is perfect for gunners.

lets see how many people tune it on alpha's and complain " WHY CANT I ALPHA?!?! "
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:48 pm

@Frizz wrote:
Yukata Eve is a Bikini Eve reskin.

Wow.

i wonder what is she doing there among non-irrelevant bots.
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:50 pm

remember: Alice is not alpha.
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:17 pm

@Beatrix wrote:
remember: Alice is not alpha.

Finally someone gets it. Alice, Homura, bikers... gunners are everywhere.
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:49 pm

>shrek shotgun
>that axis with the nuke cannon

"The alpha strike age... is reaching it's end!"
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 2:26 pm

@Maelstrom wrote:
>shrek shotgun
>that axis with the nuke cannon

"The alpha strike age... is reaching it's end!"

You mean Giganberg. They finally made something for the forgotten single weapon gunners.
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:45 pm

20% is not a very big deal. Giganberg forgotten? Put dam bersyl kid lg a be pesky fast faggit like alpenis.
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:18 pm

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20% is not a very big deal.

20% damage is a big deal for some bots.

Lisel cannon? It would go from 100~110 damage to 120~133.  
Moray cannon? It would go from 78~80 to 92~96.  
Kalin cannon? It would go from 100~110 damage to 120~133.  
Minaria attacks? Normal damage would go from 50~60 to 60~72, cannon-boost would go from 80~90 to 96~108.  

Pretty noticeable in my opinion.

I think bots like the russian machinegun girl and lumiera holx benefit the most from this new core tune.
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:55 pm

@Fleur wrote:
@EvilPotato wrote:
20% is not a very big deal.

20% damage is a big deal for some bots.

Lisel cannon? It would go from 100~110 damage to 120~133.  
Moray cannon? It would go from 78~80 to 92~96.  
Kalin cannon? It would go from 100~110 damage to 120~133.  
Minaria attacks? Normal damage would go from 50~60 to 60~72, cannon-boost would go from 80~90 to 96~108.  

Pretty noticeable in my opinion.

I think bots like the russian machinegun girl and lumiera holx benefit the most from this new core tune.

Most of them are blast though, its not much of a difference. Kek
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:23 pm

Guess its time to junk the bots I 4* core tune last week... Can anyone check if a 4 force weapons get bonus dmg from that new core tune? and do sub ranged attacks get this 20% damage buff too?
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:27 pm

"Single is Best": Grade 4 (★ ★ ★ ★): Damage done by ranged attack will be increased by 20% but the robot won't be able to do alpha.

Good Core tune to use with Kagura, Thermes, Laika, Mialy, Sasha, Peppo V, Giganberg, Lisel And any air using Thoarla cannon.

Also add Still Shooter (Grade (★★★): Increases projectile damage by 10-15% when stationary. Minimum Force required: 6) to Istina, Nebel, Celica, Ilgryps, Lumiera, Chloe (platform bit) and Rinka for extra damage.




Still no grade 2 (★★) core tune "custom Stealth" to avoid the broad radar pests.
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:28 pm

Does the new 4* tune only apply to main weapons or does it also apply to ranged subweapons? If it does, that opens up a shit ton of possibilities for builds.
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:20 pm

And right after my art getting hit by a 76 damage from Alice' confusion ray (not a back attack and I have beam guard to boot), then a core tune that does + 20% damage to single use weapons #em3.5
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:33 pm

nice Core Tune i love it  lol!
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:37 pm

It's what happens with bandaid systems instead of buffs and nerfs, while it helps those bots that really need it, it will also help those that doesn't need it just as much, so the ones on the lower end aren't actually getting any better with their direct competition (some certainly aren't getting anywhere if their issue is mechanical and makes them unreliable. Unreliable weapons barely benefit from the tune if they can't hit shit), it just means the TTK is slightly lowered through the whole game, as long as you pick specific tunes.

Core tunes much like Customization are a good concept, until it becomes a mistake.
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:24 pm

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Kalin cannon? It would go from 100~110 damage to 120~133.  

she already hits 120ish ~ 130ish on airs unless if they use armor drive, she would hit
something around 150 ~ 160 with the tune...

btw, Frizz showed me an screenshot of an sbc dealing 250 damage on a Sanae earlier...
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:52 am

I'm just concerned about the growing Therese bug abusers.
Was testing that new core tune. 20 tec Lisel kanone did 108 on crim and 47 on snailboat before the core tune, with the core tune it did 131 on crim and 55 on snailboat.
25 tec eve with x1gforce sbc did 50 on snailboat after the core tune 57.
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:34 am

@Maelstrom wrote:
btw, Frizz showed me an screenshot of an sbc dealing 250 damage on a Sanae earlier...

120-150 I believe, now 250 is a little too much...

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Yesterday was playing Colleti and from nowhere I got hitted for 254 damage. I think it was Thermes, wtf
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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:14 am

@SuperNova.pt wrote:
@Maelstrom wrote:
btw, Frizz showed me an screenshot of an sbc dealing 250 damage on a Sanae earlier...

120-150 I believe, now 250 is a little too much...

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Yesterday was playing Colleti and from nowhere I got hitted for 254 damage. I think it was Thermes, wtf  

Yes, 250 is too much indeed, probably the testers were doing something else, or idk...

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Talking about ridiculous things, yesterday I were flying fairly high with my Minaria when I spoted an
Eris on the ground. I decided to attack her and she suddenly warped from the ground to my face and
started to attack me. That was bizarre...



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PostSubject: Re: 24/11 2016 updates (updated)   Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:12 am

@Fleur wrote:
@EvilPotato wrote:
20% is not a very big deal.

20% damage is a big deal for some bots.

Lisel cannon? It would go from 100~110 damage to 120~133.  
Moray cannon? It would go from 78~80 to 92~96.  
Kalin cannon? It would go from 100~110 damage to 120~133.  
Minaria attacks? Normal damage would go from 50~60 to 60~72, cannon-boost would go from 80~90 to 96~108.  

Pretty noticeable in my opinion.

I think bots like the russian machinegun girl and lumiera holx benefit the most from this new core tune.


Don't ever mention lisel with that shit tune. She does 173-211 dmg per shot depending on air victim tgh and if it has drive or not. Second u need to be retarded to put that tune on bot that gets free LMB.
100-133 dmg on lisel is like an insult it must be total shit. U must be one of those fail lisel users that puts on like armor drive and tune her cannon dumb shit like range.

Moray bs already do like 100 dmg per 1st shot and like extra 60-80 if all missiles after it tags air if u got 40 tech (assuming target has no armor drive on it). Or are u talking about antlion am that is like cannon I have it but idk full dmg it can do (never tuned 3G force on it or tested it with 40 tech art).

Kalin does already 140 dmg. I dont have her so idk.

Minaria is meh bot why u even mention her. There are many other good examples that will bedfit a lot on their heavy force guns.


I really don't think this tune gonna change meta. It will just make single gun bots more appealing to use. That's why its not a big deal.

Maybe we will see some LL bulk gatling guns returning to arena. But knowing its fat cost It will be kinda a bitch to get it working.
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