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PostSubject: Serieux build   Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:31 am

eh... i need advice about this build ;-;
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oh and website cosmicbreak.appspot.com miss conversion part of bot ( ouka sword , serieux sub missel , etc ) ... can someone report it to creator ? Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:41 am

You have to fill all the slots on the zooka with speed tunes if you want to hit something. Unless your main point is attacking with the sub and shield spam.
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:08 am

Eh if I use the sub and sheiks , will I remove rapid tune ?
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:10 am

Up to you.
The zooka is amazing, it is really worth invest on it.

and, do you really need that bit?
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:48 am

Those cv, str. for a useless wb.. such a waste!
Only weapon of her that you can tune is that zooka, so throw everything in it. Hshooter/Grapid etc. After that pump as much HP as you can or save capa for custom accel roll setup
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:58 am

Um i think when CV was triggered, she won't be stun when using her shield :s
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:13 am

Relying on a revenge tune to active for a particular moment is a huge gambling. You'll be using her sub and zooka most of the time.
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Tue Mar 15, 2016 7:47 am

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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:04 am

i dont feel like her bazooka needs any rapid tunes
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Thu Mar 17, 2016 1:34 pm

VietPho wrote:
i dont feel like her bazooka needs any rapid tunes

I would agree with Viet in this case. I don't have much difficulty hitting enemies with the bazooka. (Though, I have left the slots in the weapon open, just incase I ever have to make a change.)

For stats, all Serieux needs is 40 TEC, 34/38 FLY (Whatever you're comfortable with), and as much meta HP as possible.

For movement carts, I would highly recommend the Short Boost + Quick Land combo over Float Dash. Serieux's weapon range will put her in the line of fire, so evasion will be important. Also, you can perform some interesting maneuvers by mixing the hops with the air dash or Diable Cacher movement.
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:36 pm

or just go 32 tec is fine
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:58 pm

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or just go 32 tec is fine

Really Nigga?


Only "issue" (as in, IMO I don't find it good) that I see in the build (not looking if tunes are optimized), is the High shooter. I really don't see much of a point on a gun like that to have more range, unless you try to go after static enemies, which is not what you are supposed to be shooting at. Speed obviously makes it better, get as much as you feel like. If you feel that you need that much speed, just change High tunes to great so you keep the same speed (you just lose some more ammo, but meh) and get something like a force tune (whatever level you feel like) and use the leftover capa for stuff like HP or whatever she's lacking.

And personally I wouldn't go with Float Dash. That's probably only good to use with the shield, even then the shield is to both protect you and retaliate, so dodging everything while using isn't that great of an idea, and you also have a dash ability. Short boost lets you reach high places faster (meaning you are closer to airs) and lets you shoot from slightly higher as you hop, meaning better chances of hitting airs (because that zooka is good against them, why not use it against them).
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:02 am

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VietPho wrote:
or just go 32 tec is fine

Really Nigga?


Only "issue" (as in, IMO I don't find it good) that I see in the build (not looking if tunes are optimized), is the High shooter. I really don't see much of a point on a gun like that to have more range, unless you try to go after static enemies, which is not what you are supposed to be shooting at. Speed obviously makes it better, get as much as you feel like. If you feel that you need that much speed, just change High tunes to great so you keep the same speed (you just lose some more ammo, but meh) and get something like a force tune (whatever level you feel like) and use the leftover capa for stuff like HP or whatever she's lacking.

And personally I wouldn't go with Float Dash. That's probably only good to use with the shield, even then the shield is to both protect you and retaliate, so dodging everything while using isn't that great of an idea, and you also have a dash ability. Short boost lets you reach high places faster (meaning you are closer to airs) and lets you shoot from slightly higher as you hop, meaning better chances of hitting airs (because that zooka is good against them, why not use it against them).


32 tec is a good breakpoint to use and here is why.

Here is my temp build (with a shooter tune and extra 5 cappa):


Here is my CosmicCalc build (didn't take short boost since I have accell roll). There is 10 extra cappa for normal rapid tunes or whatever on her Bazooka if needed. OR you can add a G.CAppa to the leg and do 2x Shooter + Great Rapid Beta. With 32 tec, you have more room to play with.

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[Robot Name]
Serieux Blanche

[Parts]
BD: Serieux BD
 : Auto Gun Bit(default)
 LG: Serieux LG [Crimson Veil] [Crimson Veil]
 HD: Serieux HD [Eagle] [Eagle]
  HDAC: Anko's Hood
  FCAC: Prome Gear [High Boost Beta]
 BS: Summer Nobori Flag BSJ [EX High Tech Beta]
  BS: K Nana BS [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta]
   BS: -
 AM: Serieux AM [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
  WP: Candy Cane B [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta] [EX High Boost Beta]
 AM: Serieux AM2 [High Tech Beta] [High Boost Beta] [High Boost Beta]
  WP: Bouclier Cannon
   WP: Bouclier Cannon@
   WP: Diable Cacher
  WP: Pumpkin Candle [EX High Tech Beta] [EX High Tech Beta] [EX High Tech Beta]

[Config Check]
COST: OK
BS: OK
LG: OK
AURA: OFF

[Stats]
TYPE: 砲
SIZE: S
COST: 1385
CAPA: 1395
HP: 543
STR: -7
TEC: 32
WLK: 1
FLY: 38
TGH: 16

LEVEL: 10

[Cartridges]
Capacity +70×6
Beam Guard
Blast Guard
Fast Recovery
Broad Radar
Accele Roll

[Material]
Hidora Cosmos×100
Fudara Cosmos×57
Midoro Cosmos×22
Yoguru Cosmos×10
Red Chip×85
Blue Chip×20
Yellow Chip×60
Green Chip×45
Rainbow Chip×20
Stabilizer×25
Turbo Charger×102
Physical Stone×100
Drum Magazine×36
Guide Circuit×15
Hard Plate×100
Screw Bolts×40
Steel Wheel×24
Miracle Ammonite×40
Shining Feather×40
Generic Element×120
Superior Element×30
Tech Element×40
Boost Element×60

CosmicCalc:
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I am liking my temp build with the float dash though because you can float dash into her sub dash + acell roll away from Melee.

You could also ditch broad radar for shortboost and do High Shooter + Shooter + Great Rapid Beta (if you switch out the anko accessory).

Bottom Line is, with 32 tech you have way more ways to tune seriux.
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Thu Mar 24, 2016 1:01 am

Breakpoints are useless except for movement because tgh reduction exists and those breakpoints are only for raw unmodified damage, the moment something triggers tgh reduction (which people love to do with their flowering guns) your breakpoints are worth as much as a pile of shit. The only exceptions to the max offensive stat is things that doesn't use it or lose too much to just get a few extra points, which is not Seriux's case.

You built solely to run away, everything you tuned, was to run away, not to do your bloody job. Hitting airs not only should be your job, you also deal more damage to them, meaning more points and perhaps more kills (unless you KS, but then your kills are pretty much worthless if someone else was about to finish the job anyway). BTW, short boost gives you height, which works perfectly with her dash, and accele roll if you get it as well.

That last build is extremely questionable, but if you think it's good at this stage, there's not much of a point in trying to explain why.
It's like we are back to the whole AG bullshit. I mean, I had a 33tec AG in the early days, but at least some people learn (well, in my case I rarely used her, and my setup wasn't blaster only, I think it was Shance or something that had a mini zooka AG too? It honestly was fun to fight other AG with that, they couldn't do shit and the mini zooka would hurt them nicely).

"If you don't tune, you have capa." What a shit argument.
You might as well not tune tec, because there's always a tier below, and after all, you get more capa for other stuff! : D
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:03 am

can Short boost use fly base right ?
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:51 am

maplemap wrote:
can Short boost use fly base right ?

yeah
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:01 pm

I really see no difference between 31 and 38 fly for ARTs, 31 fly
is almost a rule for my ARTs...

If you are going to drop tec, I recommend you to drop fly instead...
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:41 pm

strange I always notice a difference :V

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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:48 pm

I can see the difference with airs, but with arts there is no
difference for me, maybe because I just use float dash instead
of short boost...
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Thu Mar 24, 2016 4:03 pm

Maelstrom wrote:
I can see the difference with airs, but with arts there is no
difference for me, maybe because I just use float dash instead
of short boost...
probably since I barely float dash because its feels a waste now and days :V
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:12 am

I honestly don't see the reason why 32 tec would be bad compared to 40 tec for seriux. You do atleast 20 force and 40 force at 32 tec based on the calculator.
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:34 am

VietPho wrote:
I honestly don't see the reason why 32 tec would be bad compared to 40 tec for seriux. You do atleast 20 force and 40 force at 32 tec based on the calculator.

the calculator doesnt calc other factors son,

gitgud
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:23 am

Sakura1 wrote:
VietPho wrote:
I honestly don't see the reason why 32 tec would be bad compared to 40 tec for seriux. You do atleast 20 force and 40 force at 32 tec based on the calculator.

the calculator doesnt calc other factors son,

gitgud

What factors? The force tec breakpoint seem fine at 32 tec for seriux...

Let's say Istina for example, if I build her to use only her Flare Tail attack, I'd only need 34 tec for the 6 force breakpoint right?
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PostSubject: Re: Serieux build   Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:18 am

the game actually tracks the decimal damage. For Istina, 34tec is not actually 6 force, but 5.5 force, which is rounded up for 6 damage. Across 2 hits(since it's a dual weapon) it will actually only do 11 damage, not 12, . At 4 tech, it would 5.9 damage, which would actually round to 12 since 5.9*2 is 11.8 which rounds up to 12.

This is, of course, assuming TGH reduction is not taken into effect. Which it will, but since 11.8 is higher than 11.5(the minimum to get 12 damage on a hit) there is still a chance you can do 12 damage with a hit at 40 tech, but at 34 tech you will only see 11 damage(unless one of the shots backhits)

so yeah tech "breakpoints" don't really exist due to the game tracking the decimals
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