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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:47 am

We have Eve in EN too, however all her weapons are built-in ones (except for the maracas of course).

Whisp spammers were unpopular because it's such an easy to use weapon. It's not very strong though. Didn't see one in a long time.

Not sure about Air Raider, but Psycho Cluster's core won't get very far these days. Many people dislike his capacity.
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:15 am

Air Raider is okay, as long as you can find weapon parts to compliment it (say, Raystag/Tentrion HD, Pacifar AMs). Be warned that this is a poverty build, though.

May I request a screenshot of your garage?
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:48 am

@LazFlamme wrote:
Air Raider is okay, as long as you can find weapon parts to compliment it (say, Raystag/Tentrion HD, Pacifar AMs). Be warned that this is a poverty build, though.

May I request a screenshot of your garage?

Sure, it's pretty empty though. might as well just list the stuff...
Bots: Crimrose, Lily Rain, Jikun Long (3 starter bots), Izuna Kamui Nagi
Some random Parts as drops from the arena
Some Exp and UC and drop tickets as rewards from orders and boxes
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:58 am

@Zwiebel Force wrote:
We have Eve in EN too, however all her weapons are built-in ones (except for the maracas of course).

Does this mean we have no build similar to what was shown in the vid ? Fly with (infinit as it seems) boost refill, 1 weapon good damage rather rapid fire (just tried finding a weapon with the same ammo cap and the only one that made sense would be the limited plasma cannon not sure though)

@Zwiebel Force wrote:
Whisp spammers were unpopular because it's such an easy to use weapon. It's not very strong though. Didn't see one in a long time.

Hmm I see.

@Zwiebel Force wrote:
Not sure about Air Raider, but Psycho Cluster's core won't get very far these days. Many people dislike his capacity.

Ok thanks for the input
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:22 am

@SoulsSin wrote:
@Zwiebel Force wrote:
We have Eve in EN too, however all her weapons are built-in ones (except for the maracas of course).

Does this mean we have no build similar to what was shown in the vid ? Fly with (infinit as it seems) boost refill, 1 weapon good damage rather rapid fire (just tried finding a weapon with the same ammo cap and the only one that made sense would be the limited plasma cannon not sure though)

Alcy Rivette. Though nowhere as strong as the original Garapon version, it should be enough for starters. For an even easier approach, Katalina BG.

@SoulsSin wrote:
Bots: Crimrose, Lily Rain, Jikun Long (3 starter bots), Izuna Kamui Nagi

I don't know how can you only receive 3 starters considering that an ancient update allowed starters to own up to 6 bots, but that's irrelevant. Ever heard of Legion Arena and a Thanks Ticket?
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:42 am

@LazFlamme wrote:
@SoulsSin wrote:
@Zwiebel Force wrote:
We have Eve in EN too, however all her weapons are built-in ones (except for the maracas of course).

Does this mean we have no build similar to what was shown in the vid ? Fly with (infinit as it seems) boost refill, 1 weapon good damage rather rapid fire (just tried finding a weapon with the same ammo cap and the only one that made sense would be the limited plasma cannon not sure though)

Alcy Rivette. Though nowhere as strong as the original Garapon version, it should be enough for starters. For an even easier approach, Katalina BG.

So not really viable later on? If I may ask what are the commonly played / good AIR builds currently used?

@LazFlamme wrote:
@SoulsSin wrote:
Bots: Crimrose, Lily Rain, Jikun Long (3 starter bots), Izuna Kamui Nagi

I don't know how can you only receive 3 starters considering that an ancient update allowed starters to own up to 6 bots, but that's irrelevant. Ever heard of Legion Arena and a Thanks Ticket?

Huh strange when I created the account 3 days ago or so it told me to pick 3 starter bots

Legion arena as in Union wars legion arena is where I've been playing till now. Thanks ticket ?
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:06 am

A short lecture on Legion:
 
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:15 am

@LazFlamme wrote:
A short lecture on Legion:
 

Amazing. I'm at level 2 now i think and the aquilla girl is the next unlock. Learned so much from this post. Thanks.

Is there something like a "meta" in this game? Or are there enough good builds so people just play what they like?
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:29 am

There are a handful of heavily overplayed bots due to ease of scoring and effortless playstyle, but most bots are usable if you take the time to learn their playstyles and tune them properly.
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:13 pm

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A short lecture on Legion:
 

Alright, got the Aquila Girl and yup, that booster fill is exactly what i was talking about. Thanks for that. However its Ammo is very limited (3). Do all of these booster fillers have that limited ammo or are there ones with more / unlimited ?

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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:21 pm

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Do all of these booster fillers have that limited ammo or are there ones with more / unlimited ?

they all have ammo (the amount is different on stuff but they sometimes also give different effects, some examples from stuff i have and can check: the original akane and haruka have 15, amlim has 6, mialy type a has 5, monica gold wing has 3, kisaragi anko tsubaki has 15) except the one that eve has (though her's uses health)
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:56 pm

Taking the EIW carts on your A-chan will give her 2 more uses of full boost each, as well as improving her core weapon.
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:02 pm

@GasaiYunoº wrote:
@SoulsSin wrote:

Do all of these booster fillers have that limited ammo or are there ones with more / unlimited ?

they all have ammo (the amount is different on stuff but they sometimes also give different effects, some examples from stuff i have and can check: the original akane and haruka have 15, amlim has 6, mialy type a has 5, monica gold wing has 3, kisaragi anko tsubaki has 15) except the one that eve has (though her's uses health)

Apoligies for posting another vid but people of this game tend to not give a build description for some reason.
youtube.com/watch?v=M7TipUvV1y8 This seems to be an Alpha Air build, at least thats whats claimed. It's stated in the comments that itsa custom pacifier. Any ideas on how one would build such a custom alpha air pacifier ? [Why is this game lacking real fully done guides =( ]
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:05 pm

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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:29 pm

@Diabolical wrote:
click this


This doesnt really explain what weapons to combine and what parts to get though. Its a lot of weapons and parts hidden here and there for a new player.


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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:38 pm

I wasn't linking that to answer your question for alpha air parts. I linked that because it will help you when you assemble your bot.
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:39 pm

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I wasn't linking that to answer your question for alpha air parts. I linked that because it will help you when you assemble your bot.

Nice of you. Some1 already linked that though =)
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:42 pm

That is a Pacifar body with an Illgryps arm, two Tierogue arm joints and a Crystas L arm.

People used to use Pacifars and Shaden all the time, like three years ago. I'm moderately surprised that there's a video of one in use in 2015.

You should try looking up Clan Fight videos from the past year. (People probably won't link or describe what they're using in the video, but you can always show the video to other people and ask what it is.)

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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:50 pm

@AnTi90d wrote:
That is a Pacifar body with an Illgryps arm, two Tierogue arm joints and a Crystas L arm.

People used to use Pacifars and Shaden all the time, like three years ago. I'm moderately surprised that there's a video of one in use in 2015.

You should try looking up Clan Fight videos from the past year. (People probably won't link or describe what they're using in the video, but you can always show the video to other people and ask what it is.)


Aight. Will do. Cheers. Though i do wonder why people "hide" the builds
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:14 pm

@AnTi90d wrote:
That is a Pacifar body with an Illgryps arm, two Tierogue arm joints and a Crystas L arm.

People used to use Pacifars and Shaden all the time, like three years ago. I'm moderately surprised that there's a video of one in use in 2015.

You should try looking up Clan Fight videos from the past year. (People probably won't link or describe what they're using in the video, but you can always show the video to other people and ask what it is.)


1     youtube.com/watch?v=713VpbbjJ2I The bot is Fairy ? any idea on the rest?

1     youtube.com/watch?v=ZS8OXCo9F6o any ideas? How can you fly so long, boost bar barely drains...

3     youtube.com/watch?v=hjvRJQD4jks another one with insane boost bar duration (both are 1 year old but would still like to know what they are)

2     youtube.com/watch?v=a7VYIw8RvOs Missiles must be built in weapons right?

2     youtube.com/watch?v=rFhLhhqe2rk not a clan wars but really new (seraph crimrose + ballista shooter I asume)

2     youtube.com/watch?v=cu2svG8iDSY not clan wars either but new aswell (stardust cannon + ??? )

1     youtube.com/watch?v=RKOUrcecvgM union war alpha strike build no idea what weapons parts etc

1     youtube.com/watch?v=VrmcnrBpKPE another long range missile build any ideas how they are built ?

2     youtube.com/watch?v=PEKnlTv18ws randon shana build as i take from the title however rest no idea.

My priority list:
1: would really love to know asap
2: would like to know =)
3: Only if you have spare time and enjoy it or I will feel really bad


Sorry for not beeing able to post full links but since my account isnt 7 days old yet I am not allowed to do that =S
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:36 pm

* The selected bot is Berzelius Girl. She's an artillery that has reboost.

* That is an aura capable air bot. I'm not sure what the weapons are, I don't have them. You can see it activate its wonderbit, which turns on the aura and makes it start glowing yellow. Aura activates some parts, like Blitzelt BS, that have aura capabilities. Blitzelt BS is like a propeller bit that can't be destroyed. (CS doesn't really make aura bots, anymore. It's a shame because it was a cool system.)

* That's a Katalina. All versions of her have some kind of boost gauge stealing mechanism, where she steals boost from the target she hits and refills her boost bar. She also has propeller bits in this video.

* That's a Rosso.. I think the second part of its name is Asplide, but I can't remember. It's a great alpha air. The missiles are built in. When a target has been hit with the purple blasters from the arm, the missiles activate charge delay and steal a small amount of boost. This is most easily accomplished with an alphastrike.

* Oh, wow, thats the rare Seraph that has angel wings. It's the same as a regular Seraph (not FC, regular as in, promoted from a lv10 Crimrose using a Seraph Promotion (not FC.) The subweapon allows for super fast flight and antihoming. It's a staple of Limited Ruleset, something that only really happens every other weekend for Limited Ruleset Clan Fight.

* A snobby richfag, a Stardust Cannon and a Tengu BS. All three suck in regular arena, nowadays, but it's nice to see them together in this video, for posterity.

* Hygerkun BD2 (its core weapon is a psygun that applies charge delay.. this bot is also in the DX Coin Store, right now) two Burst Missile AMJ from Illumis, a Dango shooter and a Hecatoclese arm.. IDK what number.. I have it, but I haven't put it on anything.

* Another Rosso. People usually put a combination of Crystas and Armada parts on it.. or, basically, anything that will hit at 340ish range in an alphastrike.

* Yeah, thats regular Shana. Shana Veil doesn't transform. Neither really do well in the current meta. It's still fun to fly around as a huge robot dragon, but don't expect to be getting any top 5s if you tune her. (Unless you are playing in a room with only five people.)
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:03 pm

@SoulsSin wrote:
Why is this game lacking real fully done guides =(

waited for spoonfed everything is bad

the guides ppl mention in this topic is mostly core of this game that still usable

but meta in this game change from time to time so some old guides become outdated


this game have more depth than you think , so you need to test and find it yourself

one of fun points of this game is this , to find to learn to build

same bot but with different people build is not the same

expect for some f@ggot

asking how2play is the newbie authority , but to fed everything is not

and now just a little more , im nearly fed up with you
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:24 pm

@Isdelft wrote:
@SoulsSin wrote:
Why is this game lacking real fully done guides =(

waited for spoonfed everything is bad

the guides ppl mention in this topic is mostly core of this game that still usable

but meta in this game change from time to time so some old guides become outdated


this game have more depth than you think , so you need to test and find it yourself

one of fun points of this game is this , to find to learn to build

same bot but with different people build is not the same

expect for some f@ggot

asking how2play is the newbie authority , but to fed everything is not

and now just a little more , im nearly fed up with you

First off There is a diffrence between spoonfeeding and acually explaining your game. THis one does the latter quite badly.

Next, exactly because the game has depth somecookie cutter guides with parts listed and explained is what really helps new palyers get into the game. (its not that fun to start a game find out you are screwed half way in having spent all your resources (ingame currency and whatnot).

Yes the meta changes but that doesn't mean one can't post a build with parts, there is a time stamp on it so ....

"one of fun points of this game is this , to find to learn to build" let everyone decide for themselves what fun is

"expect for some f@ggot" hate the game not the players, if its in the game it will be used.

Sorry for the rougher tone.
anyway back on topic.
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:52 pm

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* The selected bot is Berzelius Girl. She's an artillery that has reboost.

* That is an aura capable air bot. I'm not sure what the weapons are, I don't have them. You can see it activate its wonderbit, which turns on the aura and makes it start glowing yellow. Aura activates some parts, like Blitzelt BS, that have aura capabilities. Blitzelt BS is like a propeller bit that can't be destroyed. (CS doesn't really make aura bots, anymore. It's a shame because it was a cool system.)

* That's a Katalina. All versions of her have some kind of boost gauge stealing mechanism, where she steals boost from the target she hits and refills her boost bar. She also has propeller bits in this video.

* That's a Rosso.. I think the second part of its name is Asplide, but I can't remember. It's a great alpha air. The missiles are built in. When a target has been hit with the purple blasters from the arm, the missiles activate charge delay and steal a small amount of boost. This is most easily accomplished with an alphastrike.

* Oh, wow, thats the rare Seraph that has angel wings. It's the same as a regular Seraph (not FC, regular as in, promoted from a lv10 Crimrose using a Seraph Promotion (not FC.) The subweapon allows for super fast flight and antihoming. It's a staple of Limited Ruleset, something that only really happens every other weekend for Limited Ruleset Clan Fight.

* A snobby richfag, a Stardust Cannon and a Tengu BS. All three suck in regular arena, nowadays, but it's nice to see them together in this video, for posterity.

* Hygerkun BD2 (its core weapon is a psygun that applies charge delay.. this bot is also in the DX Coin Store, right now) two Burst Missile AMJ from Illumis, a Dango shooter and a Hecatoclese arm.. IDK what number.. I have it, but I haven't put it on anything.

* Another Rosso. People usually put a combination of Crystas and Armada parts on it.. or, basically, anything that will hit at 340ish range in an alphastrike.

* Yeah, thats regular Shana. Shana Veil doesn't transform. Neither really do well in the current meta. It's still fun to fly around as a huge robot dragon, but don't expect to be getting any top 5s if you tune her. (Unless you are playing in a room with only five people.)


Hmm amazing thanks. Someone posted this on Rosso: cryst bs & am, rosso bd & am eco argu

Eco stands for Ecofly i assume but what does argu stand for ?
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PostSubject: Re: New and could really use some help, like a lot.   Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:03 pm

I have no clue what an argu is. Maybe it isn't an English word/acronym.

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