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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:17 pm

we shouldn't make fun of other people's illness even if they were wrong
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:22 pm

@Winty wrote:
@Shance wrote:
Still, it was hard to shoot shit because the shooters have shit for range. Opting for a single Might Bazooka (two would mean two Great Fat tunes, and I don't have the materials) might actually be better.

i honestly think that a single tuned might zook would be more effective than forcing her into alpha because you also save on carts and you really just want a close range weapon to set up for cannon shots.

I calc'ed a "draft" for her (and Minaria too, so see what they can get on paper, without proper testing of course) with that zooka instead of her psygun, because I didn't felt like doing an alpha at all, more the less a forced alpha, and because from what I saw her psygun didn't seem something I'd enjoy and it (the solo zooka) looked better than putting in a couple of handhelds that might not do as good and are just weights dragging her down and making her excessively fat. Didn't use expensive WP tunes but had enough for it and still had spare capa without optimizing the build because it was just a draft.

And that's actually the reason I didn't pick either of them yet. She seems like a more traditional art which I really liked back then, which is a main (and maybe a side main) and a ranged sub, but I just can't into psyguns. Of course she has the new gimmicks making her more modern, but mighty zooka, cannon on the side, ranged sub and mobility options just seemed reminiscent of something that I liked to use (like Desu with LL blast, core weapon and sol volca for mobility).
Still have to run a solo Mighty Zooka bot to see how I like it (rather than just how good it is) before getting her or not, since Minaria has gimmicks too, though a slight Thea after taste?

Edit: From what I see of Asphe, I'd say that you use positioning, trampoline and air dash to get closer to airs and hit them with the zooka.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:38 pm

Hey psyguns are kinda mediocre compared to the strong ones like Roar or Bee, but that's just my feeling when I use her.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:43 pm

Her psygun's force is similar to Berz', nigga. I think you're looking at this psygun the wrong way. It seems to be most effective at range as opposed to every other psygun in the game.
I'd still take a Might Bazooka over it because that's more reliable.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:47 pm

welp i think the same about that psygun , so single wep mayb a good idea

but seem like walk-base build is more benefits , from that air step (but i think it will become contradiction)
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:56 pm

I don't know. It feels... bloated, and it doesn't hit as intended.
Maybe I haven't tested her that much yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:59 pm

mayb i will go like single might zook too

, but if dia said is real , so her psygun works better in close range?
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:22 pm

No, hers is better at mid to long range. Every other psygun in the game loses effectiveness the farther the target it.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:28 pm

@Shance wrote:
@Winty wrote:
@Shance wrote:
Still, it was hard to shoot shit because the shooters have shit for range. Opting for a single Might Bazooka (two would mean two Great Fat tunes, and I don't have the materials) might actually be better.

i honestly think that a single tuned might zook would be more effective than forcing her into alpha because you also save on carts and you really just want a close range weapon to set up for cannon shots.

Is your Asphergers abusing overrange on Might Zook through Weather Cube by weapon switching?

no, why would I do that


problem with her psygun is that she wants a weapon that works at close range, because at long range she should just be using her cannon.


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I calc'ed a "draft" for her (and Minaria too, so see what they can get on paper, without proper testing of course) with that zooka instead of her psygun, because I didn't felt like doing an alpha at all, more the less a forced alpha, and because from what I saw her psygun didn't seem something I'd enjoy and it (the solo zooka) looked better than putting in a couple of handhelds that might not do as good and are just weights dragging her down and making her excessively fat. Didn't use expensive WP tunes but had enough for it and still had spare capa without optimizing the build because it was just a draft.

And that's actually the reason I didn't pick either of them yet. She seems like a more traditional art which I really liked back then, which is a main (and maybe a side main) and a ranged sub, but I just can't into psyguns. Of course she has the new gimmicks making her more modern, but mighty zooka, cannon on the side, ranged sub and mobility options just seemed reminiscent of something that I liked to use (like Desu with LL blast, core weapon and sol volca for mobility).
Still have to run a solo Mighty Zooka bot to see how I like it (rather than just how good it is) before getting her or not, since Minaria has gimmicks too, though a slight Thea after taste?

Edit: From what I see of Asphe, I'd say that you use positioning, trampoline and air dash to get closer to airs and hit them with the zooka.

Spoiler:
 

basically what I calced out.

Problems with her are that her trampoline isn't very effective with fly-based builds because she drops before you can boost out of it so you don't get the full height.
I think she's supposed to air step out of it, but air step only scales with WLK. so she's supposed to run around on the ground and use repeatedly trampolines and air step to chase through the air.
Problem is that if you want a walk based build you start losing carts really fast because she doesn't get built-in air step like killica does. You take 6 capa carts, then air step, leaving you with 3 free carts. Since you are walk-based art you probably want boost run, leaving you with 2 carts for guards/FR/QB/radar. I guess you could maybe not take boost run and just hope that air step and trampolines will carry you but that doesn't feel very good to me.

Also her sub missiles are really, really bad.

She's really flawed.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:43 pm

walk-base build with her is hard too ...
Quote :
[Robot Name]
Alpaca

[Parts]
BD: Asphe BD
 : Missile Bit(default)
 LG: Asphe LG [EX High Run] [EX High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha]
  WP: Asphe Slot [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha]
  WP: Asphe Slot [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha] [High Run Alpha]
  WP: Asphe Slot
 HD: Asphe HD
  HDAC: +1 tec +5 capa [EX High Tech Beta]
  FCAC: Cupid Lily [EX High Tech Beta]
 BS: Chloe BS [EX High Tech Beta] [EX High Tech Beta] [EX High Tech Beta]
 AM: Asphe AM
  WP: Might Bazooka [Great Force Beta] [Great Rapid Beta]
 AM: Asphe AM
  WP: Wedding Bouquet GAMMA [EX High Tech Beta] [EX High Tech Beta] [EX High Tech Beta]
 WP: Weather Cube
  WP: -
 WP: -

[Config Check]
COST: OK
BS: OK
LG: OK
AURA: OFF

[Stats]
TYPE: 砲
SIZE: S
COST: 1365
CAPA: 1365
HP: 488
STR: 0
TEC: 40
WLK: 35
FLY: 1
TGH: 12

LEVEL: 10

[Cartridges]
Capacity +70×6
Short Boost
Quick Land
Broad Radar
Air Step

[Material]
Fudara Cosmos×17
Threede Cosmos×2
Red Chip×40
Blue Chip×20
Green Chip×140
Stabilizer×40
Engine Shaft×85
Strike Metal×9
Rapid Crystal×17
Guide Circuit×24
Heat Ash×15
Snail Liquid×67
Acid Gel×15
Generic Element×116
Superior Element×29
Tech Element×80
Run Element×25

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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:53 pm

probably don't need sb if you can just trampoline around. The build I was looking at was sway+boost run+FR for my 3 carts but the whole thing just looks sad.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:04 am

I got Assphace because I heard Minaria had low DPS.. and I don't need another air jammer.

..and she has a really sexy tec/fly accessory and a free 3s BS part.

I played around with her in training and her submissiles seemed terrible. They were missing training bots that move at less than 2MPH. Her psygun/bazooka thing looked really cool. I like its projectiles.. but it has kinda low ammo for the INT.

I'm not getting her USBs. (Damn, I love that accessory and BS, though.)
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:11 am

@Winty wrote:
@Shance wrote:
@Winty wrote:


i honestly think that a single tuned might zook would be more effective than forcing her into alpha because you also save on carts and you really just want a close range weapon to set up for cannon shots.

Is your Asphergers abusing overrange on Might Zook through Weather Cube by weapon switching?

no, why would I do that


problem with her psygun is that she wants a weapon that works at close range, because at long range she should just be using her cannon.


@God is a Cat Girl wrote:
I calc'ed a "draft" for her (and Minaria too, so see what they can get on paper, without proper testing of course) with that zooka instead of her psygun, because I didn't felt like doing an alpha at all, more the less a forced alpha, and because from what I saw her psygun didn't seem something I'd enjoy and it (the solo zooka) looked better than putting in a couple of handhelds that might not do as good and are just weights dragging her down and making her excessively fat. Didn't use expensive WP tunes but had enough for it and still had spare capa without optimizing the build because it was just a draft.

And that's actually the reason I didn't pick either of them yet. She seems like a more traditional art which I really liked back then, which is a main (and maybe a side main) and a ranged sub, but I just can't into psyguns. Of course she has the new gimmicks making her more modern, but mighty zooka, cannon on the side, ranged sub and mobility options just seemed reminiscent of something that I liked to use (like Desu with LL blast, core weapon and sol volca for mobility).
Still have to run a solo Mighty Zooka bot to see how I like it (rather than just how good it is) before getting her or not, since Minaria has gimmicks too, though a slight Thea after taste?

Edit: From what I see of Asphe, I'd say that you use positioning, trampoline and air dash to get closer to airs and hit them with the zooka.

Spoiler:
 

basically what I calced out.

Problems with her are that her trampoline isn't very effective with fly-based builds because she drops before you can boost out of it so you don't get the full height.
I think she's supposed to air step out of it, but air step only scales with WLK. so she's supposed to run around on the ground and use repeatedly trampolines and air step to chase through the air.
Problem is that if you want a walk based build you start losing carts really fast because she doesn't get built-in air step like killica does. You take 6 capa carts, then air step, leaving you with 3 free carts. Since you are walk-based art you probably want boost run, leaving you with 2 carts for guards/FR/QB/radar. I guess you could maybe not take boost run and just hope that air step and trampolines will carry you but that doesn't feel very good to me.

Also her sub missiles are really, really bad.

She's really flawed.

I see. Lots of things didn't seem that bad in the couple of videos that I saw, though the missiles did look... questionable, and they are something that I would like to keep (because I like the main+sub setups).

Since I can't really test neither of them I all had was calc and doubts.

Might just go with Minaria because the things that I wanted from Asphe just seem bad, as described. If I could get both, I'd still tune Asphe besides the flaws, but if I can only pick one, I might as well go for something I can somewhat enjoy, or rather, not get headaches because of it.
Not an easy choice, and still leaves a taste of "maybe", but oh well.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:32 am

the reason i choose SB is when i look at her trampoline animation

its too slow , so SB mayb helpful when use before trampoline
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:39 am

@God is a Cat Girl wrote:
@Winty wrote:
@Shance wrote:


Is your Asphergers abusing overrange on Might Zook through Weather Cube by weapon switching?

no, why would I do that


problem with her psygun is that she wants a weapon that works at close range, because at long range she should just be using her cannon.


@God is a Cat Girl wrote:
I calc'ed a "draft" for her (and Minaria too, so see what they can get on paper, without proper testing of course) with that zooka instead of her psygun, because I didn't felt like doing an alpha at all, more the less a forced alpha, and because from what I saw her psygun didn't seem something I'd enjoy and it (the solo zooka) looked better than putting in a couple of handhelds that might not do as good and are just weights dragging her down and making her excessively fat. Didn't use expensive WP tunes but had enough for it and still had spare capa without optimizing the build because it was just a draft.

And that's actually the reason I didn't pick either of them yet. She seems like a more traditional art which I really liked back then, which is a main (and maybe a side main) and a ranged sub, but I just can't into psyguns. Of course she has the new gimmicks making her more modern, but mighty zooka, cannon on the side, ranged sub and mobility options just seemed reminiscent of something that I liked to use (like Desu with LL blast, core weapon and sol volca for mobility).
Still have to run a solo Mighty Zooka bot to see how I like it (rather than just how good it is) before getting her or not, since Minaria has gimmicks too, though a slight Thea after taste?

Edit: From what I see of Asphe, I'd say that you use positioning, trampoline and air dash to get closer to airs and hit them with the zooka.

Spoiler:
 

basically what I calced out.

Problems with her are that her trampoline isn't very effective with fly-based builds because she drops before you can boost out of it so you don't get the full height.
I think she's supposed to air step out of it, but air step only scales with WLK. so she's supposed to run around on the ground and use repeatedly trampolines and air step to chase through the air.
Problem is that if you want a walk based build you start losing carts really fast because she doesn't get built-in air step like killica does. You take 6 capa carts, then air step, leaving you with 3 free carts. Since you are walk-based art you probably want boost run, leaving you with 2 carts for guards/FR/QB/radar. I guess you could maybe not take boost run and just hope that air step and trampolines will carry you but that doesn't feel very good to me.

Also her sub missiles are really, really bad.

She's really flawed.

I see. Lots of things didn't seem that bad in the couple of videos that I saw, though the missiles did look... questionable, and they are something that I would like to keep (because I like the main+sub setups).

Since I can't really test neither of them I all had was calc and doubts.

Might just go with Minaria because the things that I wanted from Asphe just seem bad, as described. If I could get both, I'd still tune Asphe besides the flaws, but if I can only pick one, I might as well go for something I can somewhat enjoy, or rather, not get headaches because of it.
Not an easy choice, and still leaves a taste of "maybe", but oh well.

The gimmick behind those subweapon missiles are the same as the missiles on Serieux: they want you to spam them in between your shots as you wait for your cooldown to finish. As with Serieux, those missiles are shit and the debuff procs and effects aren't that good (boost recovery rate debuff? as if that affects anyone on the first few hits).

I think Winty's build is very reasonable because of how bad Weather Cube cannon's cooldown is. You can basically just shoot at anything on a safe range repeatedly with it or quick-switch to might bazooka as you wait for the cube's cooldown. Switching to might zooka when some melee tries to get in your face is a safe bet, but you probably should be tramplolololing all over the place to bother getting hit by flying meleefags.

But like Winty said, the carts would run out fast and your mobility options are next to shit because it'll probably be incomplete one way or another.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:04 am



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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:41 am

>says homura sucks because he got 3 cards

Is he like Milez 2.0 where he complains about a bot regardless if he built or didn't build it just because he can't perform well on it

I mean, DUDE. It's just like you raging on your keyboard; no matter how hard you press W on that thing, your bot ain't getting any faster.

So why press harder if it's not going to get your anywhere, skill notwithstanding?
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:53 am

Mmh...Gunslinger, Game Warrior, Destroyer, Leadership, Best Jammer, Best Supporter? I think those are all the rewards she can get by deault. Idk. Maybe Phopho should try Amy or Elven? They can claim all awards if they really want it.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:57 am

@Shance wrote:
>says homura sucks because he got 3 cards

Is he like Milez 2.0 where he complains about a bot regardless if he built or didn't build it just because he can't perform well on it

I mean, DUDE. It's just like you raging on your keyboard; no matter how hard you press W on that thing, your bot ain't getting any faster.

So why press harder if it's not going to get your anywhere, skill notwithstanding?
I'm fairly certain that's not Milez' attitude towards bots. That sounds more like Sash/a/.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:01 am

@Diabolical wrote:
@Shance wrote:
>says homura sucks because he got 3 cards

Is he like Milez 2.0 where he complains about a bot regardless if he built or didn't build it just because he can't perform well on it

I mean, DUDE. It's just like you raging on your keyboard; no matter how hard you press W on that thing, your bot ain't getting any faster.

So why press harder if it's not going to get your anywhere, skill notwithstanding?
I'm fairly certain that's not Milez' attitude towards bots. That sounds more like Sash/a/.

Oh. He's the one bitching about MBG.A right?

Sorry, both of the two great assholes, greater than I, aren't playing that much that my distinction between them are all muddled up.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:46 am

CosmicBreak Service Team wrote:
Minaria's Weather Umbrella's UMBRELLA animation has been fixed.

NOPE.
This is what she looks like before the fix:
 

This is what she looks like after the fix:
 

This is what she's originally supposed to look like:
 

Also, does anyone happen to have a screenshot with Minaria's old HD icon? I'm curious to know what's the change made.

EDIT: When you hold down Steal Boost and activate Rain Step, her umbrella knob continues to glow until you fire Steal Boost again. This has not been fixed, and my computer is too laggy to take related screenshots.


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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:48 am

I thought it was about the gitchy glowing effect from the charge-up weapon.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 6:57 am

@Zwiebel Force wrote:
I thought it was about the gitchy glowing effect from the charge-up weapon.

Not those, otherwise the CosmicBreak Service Team would have wrote:
Minaria's Weather Umbrella's STEAL BOOST/RAIN STEP animation has been fixed.
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PostSubject: Re: Most random thing you've seen or done today on CB?   Thu Jul 02, 2015 7:18 am

well...... i couldn't hep but laugh when i got her with tickets
though i'm not even sure if i'll use her much, well i'll probably lvl her to try her glint path (have only tried the other one on a friend's account)
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