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PostSubject: Killica   Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:12 am

She has really interesting gimmicks which I wasn't sure how to use at first so I just had her sit in my 3rd spot leveling up to about 5 before I decided to finally try her out after reading Winter's guide on her mechanics. It took about 10 matches before I got a basic idea of how she works in real time, and I'm really interested in tuning her but I'm not really sure if the build I have in mind is okay or not.

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I dunno whether I should remove 1 High Glad for 2x melt, or just abandon Melt altogether to go in favor of a Boost Drive. Ideas tossed at me would be much appreciated.

Also, does she need CC+? I can't tell if she gets hyper armor or not.
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:31 am

only the blade charge has armor.

Only time to use hcapa here would be to get more useful carts by dropping a capa cart. You're doing the exact opposite, by both making your build less effective by tuning capa and making your build less effective by not taking important carts(important carts being sword guard and fast recovery, pick one unless you hcapa)

remove hglad yes. Tune grappler.
boost drive is good.
I've heard killica has issues with status tunes as not all of her hits count for proccing it. From discussions of how she interacts with force unstun, this may very well be true in which case status tunes aren't good for her, but that's just speculation. Maybe you'll get more lucky with procs.

Fast recovery is better than revenge: clearance. Always. The only times you want clearance are on cores that don't get recovery(like eris) or on crowd diving AoE melees where you are under so much status that you want both.

if I was going to tune a 1x melt killica with red tier boost run using your handhelds, I'd do this.

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ends up with more HP, more damage, anti-homing bits, less ex tunes, and lower cost.
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:57 am

I didn't feel she really needed sword guard due to her parry being able to make melees unable to hit you most of the time if you time it right.

I just did a match with her and I think I did fairly well (Level 3 with just 2 High Run Beta tunes) for starters.

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I wanted to get Fast Recovery on her but I wasn't sure if I wanted that or Clearance, for fear of slow tuned melees, but eh I guess if I just parry enough I could get away in the few seconds it takes for it to wear off.

Now that I also think about it though, high glads aren't necessary considering her blade charge. I was about to question you on it but then it ran through my head.

Thanks for the input. I think I might try the 1x melt, but if it doesn't work out I can always just erase the sword drive for boost drive and a 3rd single grappler I suppose.
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:18 pm

For what I've tested, only the first hit of each swing has the status proc rate,
even with 3x melt tunes the proc rate is very low, so its worthless IMO...
Personally, I just prefer skip the weapon tunes on her for more HP, and I
prefer armor drive for even more HP and resistance cuz I feel like needing at
least 630 - 650 hp nowadays, but it's just me...
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:24 pm

You only need that much HP if you plan on rushing into the enemy base and have nothing to defend yourself with, or if you're just bad in general. The way I've been playing killica is an assassin-style of play so there's really no need for me to have 600+ HP.
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:30 pm

I like to crowd dive when ppl are campering hard, and I like to stay alive
the entire match with the first bot, that's why I use 600+ hp
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:32 pm

Alright, that's fine then. I'm not gonna do that myself though, so I will be fine with the final HP result of said build.
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:39 pm

So it's okay, I just recommend you to drop that melt tune...
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:41 pm

I'm still on the fence about keeping it or dropping it. I'm not sure still. I'm sure as I play her more I'll find out whether I want to keep it or forgo a boost drive.
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:45 pm

oh, i completely forgot about it, but one last thing is that her sword can break, leaving you with only mode change and blade charge as weapons. There's merit in tuning eternal on her arm since certain melees have a heavy habit of breaking it.
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:48 pm

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oh, i completely forgot about it, but one last thing is that her sword can break, leaving you with only mode change and blade charge as weapons. There's merit in tuning eternal on her arm since certain melees have a heavy habit of breaking it.
I saw literally one match after I made this topic lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:54 pm

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oh, i completely forgot about it, but one last thing is that her sword can break, leaving you with only mode change and blade charge as weapons. There's merit in tuning eternal on her arm since certain melees have a heavy habit of breaking it.

I will take that advice
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:17 am

Going to rebuild my Killica like this

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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:56 am

the biggest secret to killica that I use is that just like red sword do more damage, also red hair do more damage, that is my one killica secret
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:29 pm

Winty wrote:
the biggest secret to killica that I use is that just like red sword do more damage, also red hair do more damage, that is my one killica secret
Is it really a secret?

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Going to rebuild my Killica like this

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STOP DA REBUILDING! I'M FEELING SAD FOR YOUR KILLICA!
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:33 pm

Someone needs to draw a picture of an exhausted Killica with "Maelstorm" written on her leg. And under that is a tally of the number of times he has rebuilt her.




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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:38 pm

Aoko wrote:
Winty wrote:
the biggest secret to killica that I use is that just like red sword do more damage, also red hair do more damage, that is my one killica secret
Is it really a secret?

it must be because i am the only one who use red hair to do more damage.
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:47 pm

Winty wrote:
Aoko wrote:
Winty wrote:
the biggest secret to killica that I use is that just like red sword do more damage, also red hair do more damage, that is my one killica secret
Is it really a secret?

it must be because i am the only one who use red hair to do more damage.
I will use blonde hair to have the ability to chase more targets farao
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:57 pm

Reformatted to have an Eternal tune because fuck my arm getting broken every match.

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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:38 pm

Astral_Dono wrote:
Winty wrote:
Aoko wrote:

Is it really a secret?

it must be because i am the only one who use red hair to do more damage.
I will use blonde hair to have the ability to chase more targets farao
I use Brown hair one to torture myself while tuning Smile)))))
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:04 pm

there is no brown sword so brown killica doesn't do anything
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:14 pm

Aoko wrote:

Maelstrom wrote:
Going to rebuild my Killica like this

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STOP DA REBUILDING! I'M FEELING SAD FOR YOUR KILLICA!

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Someone needs to draw a picture of an exhausted Killica with "Maelstorm" written on her leg. And under that is a tally of the number of times he has rebuilt her.




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Hey, I just posted a lot of possible rebuilds for her, but I didn't any rebuild on her yet...

Winty wrote:
there is no brown sword so brown killica doesn't do anything

So I am using the right Killica, since I use yellow chainsaw combo most of the time...







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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:17 pm

fair enough.
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:01 am

Opinions on the new purple hair killica?

I haven't 1v1 a Killca that can kill me yet
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PostSubject: Re: Killica   Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:21 pm

The new weapon is worse than the original version. Idk about the WB...
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