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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:16 am

yeah you're going to take off 3 grap and put in 6 hi power in the 3 open slots you get.

you only get the cost for 2 hi power, not 6.
so basically you can't get 30 str no matter what.
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:23 am

you know ı am talking about their cost
lemme show you demo
you can get 2 more slots by equipping 0 cost amjs
that would make 5 high power
and 5 high power would make 10 str stat so its 30 str
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:24 am

you don't have the cost to do that because you're removing 30 cost of weapon tunes to put in 5 15 cost tunes
smart man, tell me what's 5*15
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:25 am

btw winty ı have one more dx coin who should ı give it for
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:28 am

@Winty wrote:
yeah you're going to take off 3 grap and put in 6 hi power in the 3 open slots you get.

you only get the cost for 2 hi power, not 6.
so basically you can't get 30 str no matter what.
UHM UHM :
 
I said ı saw a build with 3 ggraps not 3 graps
you know what ı am fucking wrong dont wanna argue about shitty elcott
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:29 am



literally the build you quoted when you asked the question.
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:38 am

ı said ı SAW A BUİLD WİTH 3 GGRAPS but whatever
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:58 am

the only build posted here with 3x great grappler already has 40 str.

there's 20/20 builds with 2x great grappler and a 20/20 build(which you quoted) that has 3x grappler.
there is no 20str build with 3x great grappler.

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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:20 am

just to clarify, i dont wanna butt in but, removing 3 graps(ggraps whatever) gives you 3 slots, now you have 3/6 your hpower tunes, + using 2 o cost 1 slot amjs, you are now using 5/6 hpower tunes. am i missing something here? how do you want to put 6 of them when you dont even have enough slots for them.
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:48 am

Dude, OP obviously wanna tune her while keeping the aesthetic value of the bot, hence no BS and other handhelds, as well as AMJs.

Btw you do realized that HPower has 15 cost whilst grappler only has 10 cost. If you're talking about High Power Alpha that'll -1 TEC, which is nope, cuz OP wanna use the gun.

Plus if you raise the base force with Grappler tune, even at 20 STR = 43.4 will raise it to 20 STR = 48.36, which is just the same as having extra 5x Power tunes (3 on Kaltos, another 2 on 0 cost AMJs), resulting in 25 STR = 47.6.

% success-wise, of course having AMJs will make tuning easier. But OP don't want to use it, hence the 20 STR with 3 Grappler tunes owob
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:58 pm

GET THE STATS:
 
MADE THİS İN LİKE 20 SECS
TURN NORMAL TUNES TO EX TUNES AND YOU ARE GOOD TO GO
WİTH 57 DAMAGE AND NO -SPEED
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:19 pm

Just to clarify, I don't have AMJs here...
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:03 pm

for those who DO have it
blitz shield makes for a good combo starter
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:37 pm

@YukiZero wrote:
GET THE STATS:
 
MADE THİS İN LİKE 20 SECS
TURN NORMAL TUNES TO EX TUNES AND YOU ARE GOOD TO GO
WİTH 57 DAMAGE AND NO -SPEED


and you dropped the weapon tunes on the ELC gun to do it, making the inclusion of the weapon useless.
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:52 pm

@Winty wrote:
@YukiZero wrote:
GET THE STATS:
 
MADE THİS İN LİKE 20 SECS
TURN NORMAL TUNES TO EX TUNES AND YOU ARE GOOD TO GO
WİTH 57 DAMAGE AND NO -SPEED


and you dropped the weapon tunes on the ELC gun to do it, making the inclusion of the weapon useless.

Better just go with the 40str + 3x ggrap build...


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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:57 pm

yes, exactly.
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:38 am

@YukiZero wrote:
GET THE STATS:
 
MADE THİS İN LİKE 20 SECS
TURN NORMAL TUNES TO EX TUNES AND YOU ARE GOOD TO GO
WİTH 57 DAMAGE AND NO -SPEED

What is this?
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:03 am

[quote="Maelstrom"]
@Winty wrote:
@YukiZero wrote:
GET THE STATS:
 
MADE THİS İN LİKE 20 SECS
TURN NORMAL TUNES TO EX TUNES AND YOU ARE GOOD TO GO
WİTH 57 DAMAGE AND NO -SPEED


and you dropped the weapon tunes on the ELC gun to do it, making the inclusion of the weapon useless.

Better just go with the 40str + 3x ggrap build...


[/quote[
pls do that
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Mon Apr 06, 2015 10:03 am

@SuperNova.pt wrote:
@YukiZero wrote:
GET THE STATS:
 
MADE THİS İN LİKE 20 SECS
TURN NORMAL TUNES TO EX TUNES AND YOU ARE GOOD TO GO
WİTH 57 DAMAGE AND NO -SPEED

What is this?
shitty elcott build
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:35 pm

no, I will go 20/20
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:32 pm

Spoiler:
 

Just to clarify, I am not going to do this, it's just an concept sketch for possible new ideas...
In this case, you will be focusing on the weapon, using the arm as a defensive tool...


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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:35 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:04 pm

(tested) You can use a "spear" or ritter laz Bs, to reduce Kaltos Am Cooldown to 0.
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PostSubject: Re: Elcott (HALP!!!)   Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:49 pm

The truth is, she is not a melee, she is just an hybrid gunner
with an weak and outdated main weapon + some outdated
utility tools, that is why she is bad. Also, I guess Winty already
said why these Kaltos am combos aren't good...
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