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PostSubject: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:29 pm

with froglanders and beezles running around.
is there any hope for the little tank?
froglanders with a drum gun is enough to pave a road of destruction.
beezles can be customized to hold a double beam gun, mini baz or a wide beam gun.
not to mention froglanders can use mini baz as well.
can any cannonballers even deal with these juggernauts running around?
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:55 pm

It seems pretty shitty to allow a land with arms and an air with arms and the only art in the room has no arms.. especially since over 90% of all weapons are arm weapons.

Also, the land has no internal weapon and can be fully customized.. the air has no internal weapon and can be fully customized.. but the art has an internal weapon that takes up cost and reduces its ability to be customized.

They should have chosen a different artillery unit to maintain balance. As I see it, airs have the advantage because the room's arts are crap.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:31 pm

@AnTi90d wrote:
As I see it, airs have the advantage because the room's arts are crap.
Handy Bazookas are a thing.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:10 pm

alba hd
burst missile lgj
built in AA missile
some weaponized bs

yeah
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:50 pm

>airs have the advantage


AAHAHAHAHAHAHA

hopper frogs with handy zooks and dual slayers. considering the beezles have low fly, they can't get away in time and will fall down right into your dual slayers.

it IS a frog lander meta

though i HAVE seen beezle alphas and evil halberd so...
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:19 pm

@Moghul wrote:
considering the beezles have low fly, they can't get away in time and will fall down right into your dual slayers.

https://i.imgur.com/8EtaixC.png

more like considering BEEZLE HAVE SHIT TGH they will ALWAYS get stunned and ALWAYS drop into your slayers.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:52 pm

I made both of my Beezles 38 fly and Beginner Rule eligible. BR rooms outnumber regular rooms 2 to 1, at least for this campaign.

The only "decent" weapon for Cannonballer that is BR friendly is the railgun BS from that bot a few months ago.

Beezles have tons of options; their greatest being CBC. I wish I had one of those gay things. I made due with a Slice Gun.. although it's hard as shit to actually hit anyone. (This is less a contest of skill and building prowess and more a contest of who is the laggiest Indonigger.)

I stand by what I previously said. Cannonballers got dicked over.. at least in the BR rooms, which outnumber the other 2 to 1.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:01 pm

@AnTi90d wrote:
Beezles have tons of options; their greatest being CBC. I wish I had one of those gay things.

you are the second person to bring up CBC.

multiple people believing it's not an L-sized weapon will not make it M-size.

cannon baller has some options...in non-beginner rooms. Psycho ROAR HD, grand dugdriver LG, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:06 pm

It's L?.. Hmm.. I was being hit with something that looked like it. (As I said, I don't actually own one.)

It might have been a Beam Pump Bazooka.

----edit----

It just hit me. It was an LCM. I'm pretty sure of it.

----edit----

I'm well aware that Cannonballer didn't get dicked over in the one unrestricted room. He got ten inches of hard pole shoved up his bum in both of the Beginner Rule rooms.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:26 pm

That's also an L-sized weapon.

who cares how many rooms there are? You can only play in one at a time anyway. I spent 10 matches in unrestricted and never felt like there needed to be a second one.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:38 am

@Winty wrote:
That's also an L-sized weapon.

OK, I have no idea what that guy was using. Tomorrow, when that guy shoots me with it.. I'll have to ask him what it is.. because it's BR friendly, M size and it hurts like shit.

@Winty wrote:
who cares how many rooms there are? You can only play in one at a time anyway. I spent 10 matches in unrestricted and never felt like there needed to be a second one.

The BR room fills up. A second BR room exists and is needed. It seems to be the popular format for this campaign. The number of BR players, for this game mode, outnumber the unrestricted players. I feel that it is totally relevant to stress that point, especially since I was answering the OT in saying that Cannonballer is not relevant and has very few options for two thirds of this campaign. I feel 'baller was a poor choice, given that two of the three rooms render him far less useful than the other two bots.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:29 am

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OK, I have no idea what that guy was using. Tomorrow, when that guy shoots me with it.. I'll have to ask him what it is.. because it's BR friendly, M size and it hurts like shit.


Might be a Plasma Beam Cannon, did it look like a Flapjack lightning gun?
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:32 am

I don't think PBC is beginner legal.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:36 am

Wait then it might be Tesla AM5

If you think it might be a 42 force lightning gun, then that might just be it.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:01 am

@Winty wrote:
@AnTi90d wrote:
Beezles have tons of options; their greatest being CBC. I wish I had one of those gay things.

you are the second person to bring up CBC.

multiple people believing it's not an L-sized weapon will not make it M-size.

cannon baller has some options...in non-beginner rooms. Psycho ROAR HD, grand dugdriver LG, etc.

i... i did not say it was M size. it really isn't.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:41 am

It could be a PBC Mod.

http://puu.sh/6VICp.png
http://puu.sh/6VIJM.jpg CS and name sense.
http://puu.sh/6VIQM.png


Airs actually have a really good weapon selection for restricted rooms, too good.
CS didn't ban 2 airs that could break those rooms. Good thing people never notice those bots.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:32 am

@Moghul wrote:
@Winty wrote:
@AnTi90d wrote:
Beezles have tons of options; their greatest being CBC. I wish I had one of those gay things.

you are the second person to bring up CBC.

multiple people believing it's not an L-sized weapon will not make it M-size.

cannon baller has some options...in non-beginner rooms. Psycho ROAR HD, grand dugdriver LG, etc.

i... i did not say it was M size. it really isn't.

i wasn't talking about you.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:09 pm

PBC Mod, then. If PBC is banned, they'll .. eventually.. get that one, too.

Those 'tards are still banning accessories. I tried to tweak one of my Bees and found out that one of my Rinka accessories is banned.
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PostSubject: Re: can a cannonballer survive in this meta?   Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:21 am

Well, regarding Cannonballer, they can also use the Quadra HD's breaker weapon, even in the beginner ruleset. Decent ammo, several shots. Dunno if using it with force + breaker + rapid tunes would change the weapon into a part-breaking menace.
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