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PostSubject: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:53 am

Since you guys are argument-loving people, and CB is a habitat rich with arguments, I thought I should create this thread for the sake of it. Rather, the main point of me doing it is because there is no, so far, proper thread for anyone to argue and fight about CB and the shit that surrounds it outside of the game, apart from the gaijin-infested official forums, which most of us don't visit because of the horribad shit and the absence of forum moderation in the place.

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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:56 am

List of shit that shouldn't be in beginner room, discuss:

All Este variants
All Pierce variants
All Lightning Gun variants
Pump Bazooka
Genbu
Aila
Katalina
Muchi if he's allowed, cant for the life of me remember
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:15 am

Estes is stronk. Not as good as pierce, but sure.
Almost all pierce guns are not allowed. Besides that Renny arm and maybe that Arte Maid AM2.
I can't remember any Lightning Guns allowed. Maybe someone better informed about this can mention some.
Pump Bazooka is OP, yes.
Genbu is dumb (especially with School Crimrose).
Aila is dumb.
Katalina is laughable, IMO.
Much is allowed atm.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:22 am

Ban Sheriff Condoleezza? Forever no love for dirt covered cowgirls.

I agree with Pump Dakka, Aila, Estes and Genbu.

What about banning anything with a slow tune?
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:22 am

Wait, Kata NEXT is still allowed isnt it? That is a definite MUST BAN.

Standard Kata is still an annoyance regardless, dual buckler Kata is still relatively difficult to deal with without some Baz of some sort.

Oh and School Crim should be banned too as far as I'm concerned, it's a almost a TBG with a heal.

As for Lightning Gun, Seiron HD, Aura Lightning Gun and Herrier Accel are permitted ATM.

As for Pierce, Connie and Renny RS.

Outside of Aila, I can't think of any melee that would make Slow banworthy in Beginner Room.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:28 am

Oh, snap. Yeah, fuck NEXT. Seiron HD is also pretty dumb. Never tried the latter two.

I guess you're right about standard Katalina. Only really bothered by them when I'm using Shaden BS (which isn't allowed so moot point) or if they pop hypershot, though. This is concerning beginner rules, though. Any fool can be a threat using a Katalina with dual flap.

School Crim also has too many good things, I guess. Wonder why no one uses her. I will still like her, though.

Totally forgot about Connie.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:33 am

katalina next was banned long ago in one of the first changes to the ruleset

a large amount of air weapons were just unbanned, including lightning cannon mod(weaponized illgyps AM), Charge beam cannon(weaponized shanacannon), and the things listed previously. Oh I think that the telsa MLG arm is still allowed as well, not sure.

The only pierceguns that are banned are piercegun, piercegun mod, and connie sherrif SG. The following pierceguns are allowed:
Assault piercegun mod
pierce shotgun/mod
Renny lop arm
connie sherrif
shino exroad AC
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:43 am

Illumis AMJ should be banned too

I still use my School Crim from time to time there, but the subweapon is terrible
On the other hand, Tackle-tuned Crims are a pain, good thing there's like 2 people with 3XGG around now


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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:43 am

they ought to just place the very, very old weapons in uc garas like they did before.
but perm.
i want a machinegun sword to mess around with so badly after i did in cbeu.
or better yet. just add them all in the shop instead of a uc gara.
a huuuuge weapon update like they did with adding a ton of robots that one time.
and a redo on a ck's eiw carts.
makes me upset each time i look at his carts.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:51 am

Illu AMJs are banned now, afaik.

>ban pierceguns
>don't ban connie

Is she that bad that she's allowed on beginners while handheld pierceguns aren't?
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:53 am

@zerocl wrote:
Illumis AMJ should be banned too

I still use my School Crim from time to time there, but the subweapon is terrible
On the other hand, Tackle-tuned Crims are a pain, good thing there's like 2 people with 3XGG around now

Burst AMJ, the one everyoneeee uses, is banned now. But cluster remains.



@mili oh, that would be nice.


Oh, thanks, windy dunno.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:40 am

Cluster is the one that everyone used and is now banned.

Comet is the one that is left. (It costs more and is less powerful than the Cluster.) I just retuned my sleigh rider to use these instead of Clusters. (I like shitting missiles on people while Astral hip-hops around.)
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:48 am

Is Sturbanger Mk1-2 LG b& because holyshit those things are stupid.

Also, this Agnusdei:

>Brag in /global about everyone else being shit
>Uses a Flapjack with Air Loop
>Thinks that using a Flapjack justifies his score and he's a cut above the rest
>Make him eat a fistful of missile using Scram Mod
>"Wow is what is that thing so powerful"
>Continues to suck your e-dick the rest of the night while still talking in /global about everyone being shit

Also the he thinks the guys at Nigvana are his whores.

Also Glide Boost needs to be nerfed I'm hitting Eves with bazookas AND THE DAMAGE DOESN'T REGISTER.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:52 am

reduce the cost of slide boost cart ticket to like
10
or something
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:41 am

make barrier shoot thingy un-alpha-able
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:47 am

@Nymph~ wrote:
make barrier shoot thingy un-alpha-able

Holy shit.. that would fucking rule.

All barrier shoot weapons.. solo onry..

Even though CS actually WANTS us to alpha with them.. the new air alpha even has 20 cost Barrier Shoot AMJs. Prepare your anuses.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:14 am

@AnTi90d wrote:
the new air alpha even has 20 cost Barrier Shoot AMJs. Prepare your anuses.
yeah, new air amj barrier. put on alpha air, drop in front of an arty, eat him alive if the art don't have barrier too
or just put it on core with long moving burst chart.

art only it seems
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:26 am

@Nymph~ wrote:
@AnTi90d wrote:
the new air alpha even has 20 cost Barrier Shoot AMJs. Prepare your anuses.
yeah, new air amj barrier. put on alpha air, drop in front of an arty, eat him alive if the art don't have barrier too
or just put it on core with long moving burst chart.

art only it seems

Thank god for that.

..but, still.. why the fuck did CS release Barrier AMJ with the Turdbangers.. and then give us this Barrier AMJ.. after releasing Rouche for UC? Are they trying to saturate arena with them so that they can later make a weapon that slices through all barriers and cash in when everyone tries to roll for it? (I think we should have one of those, anyway.. make it so it can only be used as a single weapon like Roar HD.. Give it 250-300 range and a small, but fast, projectile.. maybe make it look like a laser. Not the bizzaro mode "lasers" that we have in the game.. that are five feet across and travel fifty feet.. We need pinpoint laser rifles.. not beam rifles.. just short bursts of laser to punch through barriers and look awesome and make cool *peew* sounds.)
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:47 am

i agree, we need anti-barrier weaponry that isn't blast railguns. I had mentioned the idea of making pierceguns just pierce everything, and I still support that. Newer weapons are fine too.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:31 am

@reVelske wrote:
List of shit that shouldn't be in beginner room, discuss:
Aila

And replace it with what? Beginner ruleset needs viable meeles. I actually want vanilla Ivis unbanned.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:40 am

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I actually want vanilla Ivis unbanned.

i agree.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:41 am

Elisa (I assume she isn't banned) and Ouka are enough for moe melee, MBG would've been tolerable (if I remember correctly of what she was like) but I assume she's banned. Regardless, there are plenty of decent melee options. Slash Blade 'n Friends, Frau LG (urgh), Squealer AM, K-Sword, etc etc. If the things I've listed are removed, these old school melees will have the breathing room they need.

And Ivis? Really? You HONESTLY believe she isn't going to shit all over beginner room?

Oh, just remembered another Beginner Room culprit.

Le Reve. That does not need to be there.


@Winty wrote:
i agree.

Why of course you would, you Pump Baz/Estes/Herrier Accel beginner room faget.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:57 am

harrier accel doesn't do anything in beginner rooms - he exists to faceblast rightclickers while they are stuck in easily tracked movement patterns.
Of course, none of these things actually exist in beginner rooms so he doesn't hit anything. I believe I explained this.

Pump bazooka being allowed is perfectly fine, considering the new selection of air weapons that were opened up.
If the newly allowed air weapons(CBC and LCM, mainly) were to not be allowed, there would be no reason to allow pump bazooka to exist either. In the current state of things it exists to counterbalance the air weapons allowed.

estes weapons don't do anything special in beginner rooms, again because of the lack of any sort of strong melee which they are designed to work against.
I'm not even sure what your complaint is against them. They have higher base stats than other weapons(such as combat magnum) but increased cost as well.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:07 am

I don't see why Beam Launcher needs to be banned on Beginners. The thing is underpowered despite having decent homing.

Well, okay, maybe not that underpowered once you speed-tune the thing, but still.
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PostSubject: Re: The Cosmic Pub - The Right Place to Throw Your CB Shit Around   Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:07 am

I think some of the bots that have been nerfed should be unnerf, or at least make them somewhat better than now but worse than pre-nerf.
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