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PostSubject: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:39 am

finally we can kill hit him back without getting our asses banned

this calls for a celebration!!! Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:51 am

the forums be flooded with white noise now though
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:19 am

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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:22 am

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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:39 am

@FrozenEdge wrote:
finally we can kill hit him back without getting our asses banned

this calls for a celebration!!! Twisted Evil

Let's celebrate, haha, finally the longed wish of frozenedge has been granted,
Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

congrats edge,u can kick him back, haha,

all hail Frozenedge-sama


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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:22 am

Society was built upon rights and justice,
Now whomever came up with that idea was one of the stupidest idiots imaginable,
Yet people still go by it as it's somewhat still fair,
To the point where it's leaneant if you do something stupid on accident,
To obvious hard bound lawyering.

You've lost me as a mod,
Sure i don't give a that much about it,
Yet you've broken upon a unimaginable barrier of loopholes that will appear in the upcoming future.

You need a fair amount of softness to coexist with the hardness inside a hammer so it wouldn't break in a single swipe.
I'm the metaphorical softness in a way,
Even if you despised me,
I kept from all things going to hell with intimidating mods,
And done hidden and noticeable things without being acknowledged for it.

Sure i've edited posts to the point where i've lost my moderational powers,
But it could and would of been far worse,

Technically,
Before i edited that topic on here,
It was considered harassment to some degree,
If there was no defined degree to it,
Sure it would of became a bannable offense.
And I probably would of left it to some other moderator to handle it....
But wait,
If someone were to ban people posting inside the said topic,
Even for an X amount of time,
They'd still become pissy about it and not understand why.
Otherwise it would neccessarily take two people to settle that.

Instead,
I causally changed it so it wouldn't seem as harmful to a average eye,
Locked the topic,
And intentionally made it some the blame would be redirected at me.
Yet no one would of realized this as they'd be too busy trying to complain about what I did.

On another instance,
Which may be considered a "final act"
I modified a post written by sunjae,
An easy reason to do so is so we wouldn't have to bring up the whole Sash/a/ incident.

Spoiler:
 

Yet his failure to recognize that,
And his whiney incompitence just left him to give a final complaint towards Sliferx,
Making him remove my moderation as of now.
He did so only to the reasons that he was tired of people hearing the recent complaints regarding Desu,
And because I disobeyed him.

Most would never listen to reason,
As they would be wanting to "throw the book" at anyone as fast as possible,
This indeed happened to me,
Yet reasons were there to come,
Misunderstandings are presumably fixed,
And a riot has settled,

You can have your fun,
But knowing so,
One must watch their back,
Or be willing to have reasons to defend with their lives,

I'm willing to support my causes,
And I shall be telling reasons why to those who seek the original source,
I'm even up for telling someone that I did something idiotic at a first glance,
But with an explanation to support my actions that are viable.


After this wall of text,
Take note,
With this thread,
Comes a second offense with harassment towards myself.
I'll become one of those average "Hateful" JP fanbases if I have to,
And use my resources well.
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:35 pm

hmmm....may i ask u Desu,
why u didnt ban me/those people who insult/harass u?

why did u edit their post?
u can easily ban em ryt?
but u edit em,why u didnt ban em so easily?
was it b'coz there are too many people to ban,that sum1 might think that ur abusing ur mod power?

if u ban em mybe the other mods/forumers will ask u why did u ban them,
u hav a reasons ryt?

b'coz they harass u or sumthing,

should i count my self harassing u?

as far as i know i just said on the "Desu desu" thread is

Quote :
who is desu? Deja vu

sumthing like that

i didnt say anything bad from u,unless u dont know the meaning of Deja vu or u take the wrong meaning,
but u edit my post ryt?why did u edit it? was it insulting u?

so i feel like abusing ur mod power for nothing,

but let it go,if u want to,

my main questions are "Why u did u edit their post unless of banning me/those pipols who insult/harrass u?"

does insulting/harassing u is not enough reason to ban me/us?

Quote :
please bear my english

well forgive me if i said/write sumthing wrong or so harsh that may offend u or some1 else,


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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:06 pm

well... idk... feelin desu method still kinda extreme by cencoring/editing anything that threat for the nation... but meh... idk... it has good side effect to keep us unity all together.... but also violate the rights freedom speech...

well... idk then.... the rights for choose mod are fall to admin decision rite...we just casual member only can give commentary or suggestion without really can affect the selection...
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:13 pm

Okay, wow, so far, Desu is looking like the intelligent one, while Frozen just looks like a child bragging about how he thinks he has influence over the mods.

I hated Sash/a/. Hated his guts. But he should not have been banned. The slippery slope that I mentioned in Sunjae's thread is happening. The troll got banned, came back at his favored target and got that target into a frenzy, now that mod, provoked by Sash/a/'s trolling is dividing the forum into the 'powerful' who have friendship of the more active mod, and the 'weak' who might get banned at first complaint of trolling from the mod's friends.

Now, we've lost one of the more level headed and subtle mods... If this doesn't stop, these boards could crumble in a battle between the crusader mods and a nearly inevitable flood of trolls.
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:55 pm

OK, seriously, if you didn't want me to bring up that shit regarding Sash, you can just tell me not to. Not edit my posts. That just gets rid of the whole 'community' thing here...
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:33 pm

@Feign wrote:
Okay, wow, so far, Desu is looking like the intelligent one, while Frozen just looks like a child bragging about how he thinks he has influence over the mods.

I hated Sash/a/. Hated his guts. But he should not have been banned. The slippery slope that I mentioned in Sunjae's thread is happening. The troll got banned, came back at his favored target and got that target into a frenzy, now that mod, provoked by Sash/a/'s trolling is dividing the forum into the 'powerful' who have friendship of the more active mod, and the 'weak' who might get banned at first complaint of trolling from the mod's friends.

Now, we've lost one of the more level headed and subtle mods... If this doesn't stop, these boards could crumble in a battle between the crusader mods and a nearly inevitable flood of trolls.

Desu, level headed and subtle? Haha xD
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:31 pm

mod·er·ate

adj.
1. Being within reasonable limits; not excessive or extreme: a moderate price.
2. Not violent or subject to extremes; mild or calm; temperate: a moderate climate.

3.
a. Of medium or average quantity or extent.
b. Of limited or average quality; mediocre.

4. Opposed to radical or extreme views or measures, especially in politics or religion.

n.
One who holds or champions moderate views or opinions, especially in politics or religion.

v. (md-rt) mod·er·at·ed, mod·er·at·ing, mod·er·ates

v.tr.
1. To lessen the violence, severity, or extremeness of.
2. To preside over: She was chosen to moderate the convention.

v.intr.
1. To become less violent, severe, or extreme; abate.
2. To act as a moderator.



censor

n
1. a person authorized to examine publications, theatrical presentations, films, letters, etc., in order to suppress in whole or part those considered obscene, politically unacceptable, etc.
2. any person who controls or suppresses the behavior of others, usually on moral grounds
3. (Historical Terms) (in republican Rome) either of two senior magistrates elected to keep the list of citizens up to date, control aspects of public finance, and supervise public morals
4. (Psychoanalysis) Psychoanal the postulated factor responsible for regulating the translation of ideas and desires from the unconscious to the conscious mind See also superego

vb (tr)
1. to ban or cut portions of (a publication, film, letter, etc.)
2. to act as a censor of (behaviour, etc.)

[from Latin, from cēnsēre to consider, assess]
censorable adj
censorial [sɛnˈsɔːrɪəl] adj



@Courius wrote:
the rights for choose mod are fall to admin decision rite...we just casual member only can give commentary or suggestion without really can affect the selection...

If we were allowed to vote for a mod, that would give those who voted in favor of that mod a belief that they should be spared from that mod's hand of action. Otherwise, they would feel disgruntled that the mod they voted in bites the hand that feeds when the mod does his role like he should. So yes, Admin should pick the staff, though he can consider the opinions of the board or ask if anyone agrees with his decision.




Kasane,

Mods generally don't ban users who bash them, because it makes it seem as if it was an entirely personal reason. When you are a mod, you generally are not supposed to make any action that could be inferred as [only] personal (not that the person effects the entire community, or harassed another member vulgerly, and posted without any intellectual vision). Thus, another mod has to step in and take over the situation when another mod is involved.

It works like you'd see in Police dramas. You can not work on a case where the victim is personally related to you, even if you would be able to find the killer, as you are a suspect, no matter how silly it seems, and could throw the entire case to shit by them deciding that your presence posed a possibility for you to tamper with evidence that may have held you even minutely responsible.

Thus, you can not ban someone on the grounds that they ridicule you when you are enforcing peace. You instead have to show that you are mature enough to ignore it, or be light hearted about it and be like "Yeah, I hate me too sometimes". Otherwise, you effect the image of yourself being able to moderate effectively.

Typically, when there is content to ban a member, the mods discuss it first. To ban without giving fair warning or reason, tends to alienate and enrage the person being banned. Banning without talking it over with other staff, well, then you are also showing that you are not a team player if you don't even consult your fellow mods ahead of time.


In general, I don't see Desu as having done anything yet to have required him be removed from Mod privileges. I also don't feel he'd censor what you claim you said. Also, because there are other mods here outside of him, and the board probably does not log so the admin can oversee every action of his staff, who is to say it was Desu even?


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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:04 am

@Desu wrote:
Society was built upon rights and justice,
Now whomever came up with that idea was one of the stupidest idiots imaginable,
Yet people still go by it as it's somewhat still fair,
To the point where it's leaneant if you do something stupid on accident,
To obvious hard bound lawyering.

You've lost me as a mod,
Sure i don't give a that much about it,
Yet you've broken upon a unimaginable barrier of loopholes that will appear in the upcoming future.

You need a fair amount of softness to coexist with the hardness inside a hammer so it wouldn't break in a single swipe.
I'm the metaphorical softness in a way,
Even if you despised me,
I kept from all things going to hell with intimidating mods,
And done hidden and noticeable things without being acknowledged for it.

Sure i've edited posts to the point where i've lost my moderational powers,
But it could and would of been far worse,

Technically,
Before i edited that topic on here,
It was considered harassment to some degree,
If there was no defined degree to it,
Sure it would of became a bannable offense.
And I probably would of left it to some other moderator to handle it....
But wait,
If someone were to ban people posting inside the said topic,
Even for an X amount of time,
They'd still become pissy about it and not understand why.
Otherwise it would neccessarily take two people to settle that.

Instead,
I causally changed it so it wouldn't seem as harmful to a average eye,
Locked the topic,
And intentionally made it some the blame would be redirected at me.
Yet no one would of realized this as they'd be too busy trying to complain about what I did.

On another instance,
Which may be considered a "final act"
I modified a post written by sunjae,
An easy reason to do so is so we wouldn't have to bring up the whole Sash/a/ incident.

Spoiler:
 

Yet his failure to recognize that,
And his whiney incompitence just left him to give a final complaint towards Sliferx,
Making him remove my moderation as of now.
He did so only to the reasons that he was tired of people hearing the recent complaints regarding Desu,
And because I disobeyed him.

Most would never listen to reason,
As they would be wanting to "throw the book" at anyone as fast as possible,
This indeed happened to me,
Yet reasons were there to come,
Misunderstandings are presumably fixed,
And a riot has settled,

You can have your fun,
But knowing so,
One must watch their back,
Or be willing to have reasons to defend with their lives,

I'm willing to support my causes,
And I shall be telling reasons why to those who seek the original source,
I'm even up for telling someone that I did something idiotic at a first glance,
But with an explanation to support my actions that are viable.


After this wall of text,
Take note,
With this thread,
Comes a second offense with harassment towards myself.
I'll become one of those average "Hateful" JP fanbases if I have to,
And use my resources well.

Dont worry desu. Im back. Kaiser will have to ban me more than 1000 times now.

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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:20 am

@ChaosOmni,
now i understand,
but i still want desu's answer personally,
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:27 am

Sean24 wrote:
@Feign wrote:
Okay, wow, so far, Desu is looking like the intelligent one, while Frozen just looks like a child bragging about how he thinks he has influence over the mods.

I hated Sash/a/. Hated his guts. But he should not have been banned. The slippery slope that I mentioned in Sunjae's thread is happening. The troll got banned, came back at his favored target and got that target into a frenzy, now that mod, provoked by Sash/a/'s trolling is dividing the forum into the 'powerful' who have friendship of the more active mod, and the 'weak' who might get banned at first complaint of trolling from the mod's friends.

Now, we've lost one of the more level headed and subtle mods... If this doesn't stop, these boards could crumble in a battle between the crusader mods and a nearly inevitable flood of trolls.

Desu, level headed and subtle? Haha xD
Okay, okay, perhaps that's going a bit far... Rolling Eyes
My point still stands. This community is headed down a dangerous road.
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:38 am

@Feign wrote:
Sean24 wrote:
@Feign wrote:
Okay, wow, so far, Desu is looking like the intelligent one, while Frozen just looks like a child bragging about how he thinks he has influence over the mods.

I hated Sash/a/. Hated his guts. But he should not have been banned. The slippery slope that I mentioned in Sunjae's thread is happening. The troll got banned, came back at his favored target and got that target into a frenzy, now that mod, provoked by Sash/a/'s trolling is dividing the forum into the 'powerful' who have friendship of the more active mod, and the 'weak' who might get banned at first complaint of trolling from the mod's friends.

Now, we've lost one of the more level headed and subtle mods... If this doesn't stop, these boards could crumble in a battle between the crusader mods and a nearly inevitable flood of trolls.

Desu, level headed and subtle? Haha xD
Okay, okay, perhaps that's going a bit far... Rolling Eyes
My point still stands. This community is headed down a dangerous road.

besides only few active users were online than regular forums.... no i dont see we're heading down.... Suspect
and a troll as a mod is really a bad idea..... i encountered that and its wasnt pretty..... -___-
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:43 am

can someone close the thread,,, Razz Razz Razz
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:45 am

yeah close this thread before feign posts one of his intellectual comments to me Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:51 am

@FrozenEdge wrote:
yeah close this thread before feign posts one of his intellectual comments to me Shocked
You should thank me, the mental exercise is good for you. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:59 am

@FrozenEdge wrote:
yeah close this thread before feign posts one of his intellectual comments to me Shocked

haha,as i thought,u want to close it too,

actually,wen i see Feign's post im always being careful,
coz wen ur the enemy of Feign u'l definitely get an Brain attack,

he just write but he hits ur weak point,
thats why wen i said on his picx that he looks angry and he replied if i wanna see his angry face
i just simply said no comment,

haha,simply put im scared of him, Neutral Neutral Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:12 am

@Kasane_Teto wrote:
@FrozenEdge wrote:
yeah close this thread before feign posts one of his intellectual comments to me Shocked

haha,as i thought,u want to close it too,

actually,wen i see Feign's post im always being careful,
coz wen ur the enemy of Feign u'l definitely get an Brain attack,

he just write but he hits ur weak point,
thats why wen i said on his picx that he looks angry and he replied if i wanna see his angry face
i just simply said no comment,

haha,simply put im scared of him, Neutral Neutral Neutral

why did u say it!!! he will attack you!!! No silent
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:28 am

Just asking Frozen,Did Desu ever do anything to you at all?
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:33 am

@iMudkipz wrote:
Just asking Frozen,Did Desu ever do anything to you at all?
oh sh- Shocked *runs away*
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:36 am

@FrozenEdge wrote:
why did u say it!!! he will attack you!!! No silent
oops! Shocked i take it back Feign

im not scared! Mad im braved! Razz

if Feign wants to attack my brain den i'll remove my brain,

Razz Razz Razz Razz
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PostSubject: Re: The dreaded desu isnt a mod anymore!!! >:D   Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:38 am

@iMudkipz wrote:
Just asking Frozen,Did Desu ever do anything to you at all?
hmm,editing his post, Razz
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