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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:21 pm

About how much longer do I have to collect Hydroid Prime Parts? Because I have 2 of them now. I am so close to getting my 2nd Prime Warframe.

Also on another subject, recently I just obtained another new Warframe, but I'm really having a hard time with him.
It's Limbo.

I really don't understand how to use him. Like sometimes he like makes everything turn all muffled and I cannot collect items or damage enemies for a while. And I am not sure what his powers are supposed to do. Like the 1 Ability appears to be a standard energy blast, but the other ones I'm not sure what they do. Can anyone help me with Limbo?
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:56 pm

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About how much longer do I have to collect Hydroid Prime Parts? Because I have 2 of them now. I am so close to getting my 2nd Prime Warframe.

Also on another subject, recently I just obtained another new Warframe, but I'm really having a hard time with him.
It's Limbo.

I really don't understand how to use him. Like sometimes he like makes everything turn all muffled and I cannot collect items or damage enemies for a while. And I am not sure what his powers are supposed to do. Like the 1 Ability appears to be a standard energy blast, but the other ones I'm not sure what they do. Can anyone help me with Limbo?

his 1st ability throws the enemies into a second dimension, in which case they cant do shit towards u unless u go to that second dimension ( via shift ) or 4

2nd is time freeze anyone in 2nd dimension gets frozen for a period of time. even bullets fired *cough * bullet barrage * cough* 3rd is some sort of energy dimension shit which spreads 4th is like a second dimensional bubble which gets smaller and smaller and then explodes on anything still inside the bubble. I dont find it that useful unless I need to do mass freeze in order to escape or something
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:58 am

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About how much longer do I have to collect Hydroid Prime Parts? Because I have 2 of them now. I am so close to getting my 2nd Prime Warframe.

Also on another subject, recently I just obtained another new Warframe, but I'm really having a hard time with him.
It's Limbo.

I really don't understand how to use him. Like sometimes he like makes everything turn all muffled and I cannot collect items or damage enemies for a while. And I am not sure what his powers are supposed to do. Like the 1 Ability appears to be a standard energy blast, but the other ones I'm not sure what they do. Can anyone help me with Limbo?

You have a long while to get Hydroid Prime, 4 other Primes will be vaulted and 4 others will be released before he's vaulted.


Limbo is hard to master and hard not to be annoying with, so people tend to dislike him.


His gimmick is the Rift, it's a different plane of existence, things on the opposite plane can't damage you (can only damage when in the same plane). The Rift can prevent you from interacting with things, while some are fine as long as they are in the same plane (his 4 benefits from that), there's however a trick to interact with anything even if the Rift doesn't allow you to but since you didn't beat the Second Dream and The War Within I'm not going to tell you how right now so I don't spoil the story for you.

The rift also has energy regen to players inside it.


To switch between planes as Limbo you use the roll (double tap), it also opens a gate that other players can use (non Limbo players can roll to get out of the rift).


His 1 makes a wave that makes anyone (enemies and allies) go to the opposite plane, if they are in normal plane they are sent to the rift, if they are in the rift they go to the normal plane. It only affects enemies/players in the same plane as you (meaning to do so you expose yourself a little).


Second ability freezes time in the rift, enemies will be frozen in place and so will bullets (all bullets, even from team mates). However firing bullets in the rift will overload it (it will make a distortion effect as it gets overloaded) and break the time freeze. Making time move again will allow everything to move again, enemies and bullets will resume their movement (you can pretend it's ZA WARUDO and put a ton of knives around the enemy). This is a really good ability to focus on melee as melee is unaffected, unless it's things like Glaives when thrown.


Rift Surge is hard to understand but can be great when well used. Basically it "tags" enemies around you that are in the rift (regular plane enemies won't be affected) with a Surge, when a surged enemy is killed they will Surge other enemies around them that are in the regular plane. If a Surged enemy leaves the rift they lose the Surge but they are knocked down, take minor damage, are sent back to the Rift and also send to the rift any enemies around them.


Cataclysm creates a bubble that puts anything inside it on the rift, it shrinks as duration diminishes. Once duration ends it explodes (also deals damage when it does) but it can be detonated at any time, the damage it does is a sum of the HP and shields of the enemies inside cataclysm divided by the number of enemies inside cataclysm AND you only do a percentage of that damage depending on when you detonated it, if you cast and detonate right away you only deal 25% of that damage, if it detonates when the duration ends then you deal 100% of that damage.



You can use Limbo in rescue to banish the rescue target so they don't take damage, put Cataclysm on defence or mobile defence targets and Excavators so enemies can't damage it and his 2 will further prevent that because even if they get inside Cataclysm they will be frozen in time.


I prefer to use him for melee and mass Rifting with the Augment for his 3 (it increases his damage based on enemies affected by his 3). I press 2 to freeze time in the rift, cast Cataclysm on a group of enemies, then I press 3 to surge them, press 4 again to Detonate Cataclysm, all enemies will be sent back to the rift as they are affected by his 3 then I press his 3 again to re-surge all enemies, get the damage bonus from the augment and to spread his 3 to fresh enemies as I kill the rifted ones, then I repeat the cycle as I need to.
I do that to avoid having Cataclysm up so allies aren't effected and I can control how many enemies I isolate for myself. I also tend to do it a bit away from others as they get annoyed if I do it very often as it prevents them from killing enemies. It's mostly a Tactic to solo a zone in modes like Survival.


In Excavation I leave 3 players guarding 1 excavator and then I solo the second Excavator, I keep Cataclysm and Stasis up at all times and kill enemies in the border of the rift for the energy cells.


Limbo is very situational and hard to master. He's very easy to use to cheese some missions and beat them without any difficulty (like Rescue, Spy, mobile defence and Excavation), but to use him aside of that is very hard to do so, plus you need to get used to people being angry at you, some will be salty just from seeing him.
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:18 pm

2x Affinity weekend going on right now, take the chance to level up stuff faster.
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:12 pm

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/915093-dev-workshop-warframes-revisited/?tab=comments#comment-9444873


Tons of changes to Warframes, mostly buffs, some nerfs as well though (barely any).

Biggest change was Zephyr, her rework will make her 1 and 2 be the same ability, her new 2 is a CC ability instead.
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:51 pm

Shrine of the Eidolon to land this week.
https://www.warframe.com/news/shrine-of-the-eidolon-update




2 new Eidolon, can steal and ride Dargyns and tons of changes to some frames (with a new thread coming today or tomorrow with even more changes) and to about 100 weapons (with more to come later). Strangely enough they don't mention Khora, guess they haven't finished her rework yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:29 am

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https://forums.warframe.com/topic/917313-dev-workshop-warframes-revisited-part-2/

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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:53 am

Wow, thanks for all of that. I haven't been doing Eidelon much but I will definitely check out all of that.

And just in time. I finally got all of Hydroid Prime and Mirage Prime's parts (but I need more stuff to craft them, like Nano Spores and Plastids), but at least I have them now. And I finished my first 3 successful Formorian Assaults.
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:45 pm

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Wow, thanks for all of that. I haven't been doing Eidelon much but I will definitely check out all of that.

And just in time. I finally got all of Hydroid Prime and Mirage Prime's parts (but I need more stuff to craft them, like Nano Spores and Plastids), but at least I have them now. And I finished my first 3 successful Formorian Assaults.

From all the things being added to the plains right now you will only be able to steal the Dargyns, to defeat the Eidolons you need to complete the War Within.


Nice. Mats will be easy to get, those aren't that hard. Vauban Prime is when things get harder as he needs tons of Oxium.


Edit: Raids getting removed, Dark Sectors Armistice ending too (which they don't mention what that means but the Dark Sectors rework is being worked on right now and we've seen hints and mentions of that).

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/917480-the-temporary-future-of-warframe-trials


People are getting throwing salt but honestly I don't think most even play it any often. Raids were a nice concept but they are convoluted and overall it's just puzzles as the enemy shoots at you, there's barely any combat on them, and considering how buggy and messy they are, it really sounds like it's better to just remove and focus on making things better instead of keeping it on life support and let it drain resources for just a few people to run it.


Meanwhile the arcanes from those will be dropping from the Eidolons.


Edit2: Update delayed for tomorrow. Pets will no longer die but instead will be put in stasis just like how it currently does if you own the Nutrio Incubator. If you have the Nutrio Incubator after the update the stabilizers will only cost 5k credits (without the Nutrio upgrade it's 75k).
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:48 pm

Shrine of the Eidolon is live, huge patch notes due to lots of changes to Warframes and Weapons.

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/918482-shrine-of-the-eidolon-update-22120/?tab=comments#comment-9478018


The world state window is so big right now that it spawned Star Wars jokes.

https://brorlandi.github.io/StarWarsIntroCreator/#!/AL4xztoJcZ9d-8GZk0cN
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:33 pm

Beam weapons got changed today, they no longer deal status based on a per second basis, so now they are status monster guns.

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/924885-shrine-of-the-eidolon-hotfix-22133/
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:10 pm

Login to get the Dex Excalibur skin, 4 missions will also award the previous anniversary items, Dex Furis, Dex Dakra, Dex Sybaris and the Syandana.

Not sure if Dex Excalibur message is the same for every player or different for some, if it's the same for everyone it might have spoilers about the latest quest (Apostasy Prologue).


Zephyr Prime, Tiberon Prime and Kronen Prime next week.

https://www.warframe.com/news/zephyr-prime-access-begins-march-20


Dojo Remaster this week, not sure how much it will change but should just be more stuff to place, better placement tools and navigation from the Dojo, shouldn't be anything special (still waiting for that nemesis system).
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:05 pm

I didn't see any Syandana, and I only saw 3 missions (Which I already completed).
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:13 pm

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I didn't see any Syandana, and I only saw 3 missions (Which I already completed).


That mission was bugged so they had to remove it. It will be added back next patch, either today or tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:27 pm

It's fixed now. Just did it and got the Syndana.
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:56 am

So, Zephyr Prime and holy shit, Tiberon Prime has to be the silliest thing ever done.

It has 3 fire modes, all pretty good, but the semi auto has some stupid stats. Semi auto has 3.4x crit damage, I believe that I could make mine reach 20x crit damage if I put hammer shot, bladed rounds, point strike and my Riven, and that's still lacking yet another crit mod which would made it even higher, and unlike the Nukor which only works with very specific things, the Tiberon Prime is a crit gun. Like, WTF.

In fact the gun out of the box with just a catalyst it has enough polarities and is strong enough to beat sortie 1 and possible 2, without any forma.

Lord Tiberon was once a gun that felt right but with all the wrong stats, the buff made it near Sybaris Prime level (too close even), the prime is just ridiculous.
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:24 pm

Ah yes! I just got my 4th Prime now, Oberon Prime!

Though I was wondering, should I keep my old Oberon then, or get rid of it? I mean Oberon Prime is basically the same except better, but it took me a while to get all the parts for regular Oberon, and I don't want to get rid of it if I might actually need it in the future.


Oh and another thing. I heard there's this ability in the game where you actually leave your suit. How do you do that, I didn't know that was a thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:36 pm

hmm I haven't touch this game in like forever... WHAT I MISS!!
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:36 pm

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hmm I haven't touch this game in like forever... WHAT I MISS!!

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Ah yes! I just got my 4th Prime now, Oberon Prime!

Though I was wondering, should I keep my old Oberon then, or get rid of it? I mean Oberon Prime is basically the same except better, but it took me a while to get all the parts for regular Oberon, and I don't want to get rid of it if I might actually need it in the future.


Oh and another thing. I heard there's this ability in the game where you actually leave your suit. How do you do that, I didn't know that was a thing.

You missed that Galaxina is MR10 and still doesn't have the Second Dream complete.


Dude, play the quests, not going to say anymore, finish the Second Dream (need to complete Natah before) and then The War Within.


Ever since PoE most updates have been QOL changes and fixes, lots of weapon and frame buffs but not much in terms of new content besides primes and skins. Khora might be coming out soon but eh, might as well take a few more months since she's been delayed since last year anyway.


Once you get the prime usually there's no reason to keep the original as they aren't needed for anything. If you need the slot and you never really put much effort into the frame (forma/reactor) you can just sell the non prime and use the prime instead. I keep mine because, well, I just have enough plat to throw at the market for slots anyway and I like to hoard stuff.


Plague Star might come again soon so there will be another chance to get the Infested Zaw parts (which are really good) and Exodia Epidemic/Contagion arcanes.
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:38 pm

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@Sakura1 wrote:
hmm I haven't touch this game in like forever... WHAT I MISS!!

@Armored Entity wrote:
Ah yes! I just got my 4th Prime now, Oberon Prime!

Though I was wondering, should I keep my old Oberon then, or get rid of it? I mean Oberon Prime is basically the same except better, but it took me a while to get all the parts for regular Oberon, and I don't want to get rid of it if I might actually need it in the future.


Oh and another thing. I heard there's this ability in the game where you actually leave your suit. How do you do that, I didn't know that was a thing.

You missed that Galaxina is MR10 and still doesn't have the Second Dream complete.


Dude, play the quests, not going to say anymore, finish the Second Dream (need to complete Natah before) and then The War Within.


Ever since PoE most updates have been QOL changes and fixes, lots of weapon and frame buffs but not much in terms of new content besides primes and skins. Khora might be coming out soon but eh, might as well take a few more months since she's been delayed since last year anyway.


Once you get the prime usually there's no reason to keep the original as they aren't needed for anything. If you need the slot and you never really put much effort into the frame (forma/reactor) you can just sell the non prime and use the prime instead. I keep mine because, well, I just have enough plat to throw at the market for slots anyway and I like to hoard stuff.


Plague Star might come again soon so there will be another chance to get the Infested Zaw parts (which are really good) and Exodia Epidemic/Contagion arcanes.


Okay, I just didn't want to sell it if there was something it could be used for that I was not aware of, like, say how Chroma uses parts from other Warframes in its construction. If there isn't, gonna sell the old one then.

I am sorta scared on using a Forma, since it resets it back to Level 0, and I don't wanna go through all that all over again just to get a slot that gives half cost on specific polarities. I have used Reactors on some of mine though, but Oberon not yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:07 pm

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@Armored Entity wrote:
Ah yes! I just got my 4th Prime now, Oberon Prime!

Though I was wondering, should I keep my old Oberon then, or get rid of it? I mean Oberon Prime is basically the same except better, but it took me a while to get all the parts for regular Oberon, and I don't want to get rid of it if I might actually need it in the future.


Oh and another thing. I heard there's this ability in the game where you actually leave your suit. How do you do that, I didn't know that was a thing.

You missed that Galaxina is MR10 and still doesn't have the Second Dream complete.


Dude, play the quests, not going to say anymore, finish the Second Dream (need to complete Natah before) and then The War Within.


Ever since PoE most updates have been QOL changes and fixes, lots of weapon and frame buffs but not much in terms of new content besides primes and skins. Khora might be coming out soon but eh, might as well take a few more months since she's been delayed since last year anyway.


Once you get the prime usually there's no reason to keep the original as they aren't needed for anything. If you need the slot and you never really put much effort into the frame (forma/reactor) you can just sell the non prime and use the prime instead. I keep mine because, well, I just have enough plat to throw at the market for slots anyway and I like to hoard stuff.


Plague Star might come again soon so there will be another chance to get the Infested Zaw parts (which are really good) and Exodia Epidemic/Contagion arcanes.


Okay, I just didn't want to sell it if there was something it could be used for that I was not aware of, like, say how Chroma uses parts from other Warframes in its construction. If there isn't, gonna sell the old one then.

I am sorta scared on using a Forma, since it resets it back to Level 0, and I don't wanna go through all that all over again just to get a slot that gives half cost on specific polarities. I have used Reactors on some of mine though, but Oberon not yet.


There's currently no use for frames besides, well, using them, so you are free to sell non primes (well, at least once you get the prime). Cases like Chroma use the part itself but not the frame, only weapons require fully built weapons instead of parts of other weapons.

If you get a non prime frame when you already have the prime then you can just craft it, max rank it and then sell it, but watch out, if you like collecting stuff some frames can only be obtained once and if you want them again you will need to buy them in the market (usually it's frames from quests or that the BP comes from a quest).


You will eventually start using forma, but learning to be smart about it is the way to go rather than throwing random polarities only to make things worse. Weapons aren't much of an issue since you have 2 other weapons to compensate, Frames are more of a pain early on. If you keep unlocking nodes and planets levelling will be trivial (although time consuming if you level a lot of things) when you get to Hydron in Sedna.


Carrying weapons you don't need helps with levelling stuff as well, since kills from team mates will distribute XP through your gear, so less gear means the XP will be focused on the things you want to level. Like if you are levelling up a primary and you have no melee to level up and aren't using that you can drop the melee and use the Secondary to compensate and kill things with if the primary can't do so.


A kill from a team mate gives you 25% to your frame and 75% divided per weapon equipped (including max ranked), so with a full loadout (3 weapons) that's 25% XP per weapon, but with just 2 weapons that's 37.5% per weapon, a single weapon is 75% obviously but carrying a weapon that isn't maxed and fully modded will decrease your viability a lot so you need to watch out not to leech and be useless (it's okay to leech a bit when someone is killing everything in a levelling spot but you need to be ready to defend the objective in case they can't).
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:18 pm

o-o...why are you afraid of forma.... leveling up a weapon isn't even hard :V a warframe without any killing abilities is on the other hand.
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:47 pm

Khora might come out next week, hinted on today's patch notes and the devstream thread says it's the last devstream she lives on the dev build (next devstream is in 2 weeks), so she should be out next week.


Apparently they changed her abilities but the Whip and Kavat should still be there as they are the basis of her kit anyway. She should bring a dart gun secondary that changes element with alt fire. Her melee weapon if I remember it correctly might work like the Dark Split Sword and be 2 weapons in 1, though unless they finally made it possible to change on the fly, it should change form based on stance.

No word about where she will drop but Void Onslaught might come out next week too and it seems like it will have it's own rewards.
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PostSubject: Re: Warframe General Discussion   Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:24 pm

https://www.warframe.com/news/beasts-of-the-sanctuary-update-coming-this-week

Khora this week, 3 new weapons (one of them should act as 2 weapons in 1), new Zaw parts, new game mode with new and old rewards.
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