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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 24, 2012 2:11 pm

Yay! Thanks!

Now I just have to get her to lv 10.
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 24, 2012 3:00 pm

Change one Clearance into a Tank tune instead. Get a few more HP.
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 24, 2012 3:19 pm

I'm debating either to get Broad Radar or not.
I'm used to getting broad radar on absolutely every bot I play, since I TAB almost every seconds of arena play to check the battlefield out.

But so far when I play with Reine all I do is crowd diving and die.
Not even sure if Broad Radar would be useful at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 24, 2012 3:23 pm

@Silvraph wrote:
I'm debating either to get Broad Radar or not.
I'm used to getting broad radar on absolutely every bot I play, since I TAB almost every seconds of arena play to check the battlefield out.

But so far when I play with Reine all I do is crowd diving and die.
Not even sure if Broad Radar would be useful at all.
It'd let you spot healing groups.
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 24, 2012 3:26 pm

Astral_Goddess wrote:
@Silvraph wrote:
I'm debating either to get Broad Radar or not.
I'm used to getting broad radar on absolutely every bot I play, since I TAB almost every seconds of arena play to check the battlefield out.

But so far when I play with Reine all I do is crowd diving and die.
Not even sure if Broad Radar would be useful at all.
It'd let you spot healing groups.
Right...
Even more efficiency for crowd diving, oh gosh!

@Frederica-Bernkastel wrote:
Ok i looked at some foreign sites and considered various builds.

Will this work?
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36 wlk is a breakpoint, so you should have that instead of 35.
So drop clearance for tank tune and since you have extra capa, exchange a high run beta for a high tank for even more hp.
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 24, 2012 3:27 pm

@Silvraph wrote:
Astral_Goddess wrote:
@Silvraph wrote:
I'm debating either to get Broad Radar or not.
I'm used to getting broad radar on absolutely every bot I play, since I TAB almost every seconds of arena play to check the battlefield out.

But so far when I play with Reine all I do is crowd diving and die.
Not even sure if Broad Radar would be useful at all.
It'd let you spot healing groups.
Right...
Even more efficiency for crowd diving, oh gosh!
Hey, you said that's all you do so that's one reason to get broad radar for crowd diving.

If you DON'T want to crowd dive, get it so you can spot incoming AIRs and know where to hit ARTs that are hiding =3=
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 24, 2012 3:28 pm

I do not think he has enough room to change a 5 cost tune to a 45 cost tune. |:
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 24, 2012 3:49 pm

Astral_Goddess wrote:
@Silvraph wrote:
Astral_Goddess wrote:
It'd let you spot healing groups.
Right...
Even more efficiency for crowd diving, oh gosh!
Hey, you said that's all you do so that's one reason to get broad radar for crowd diving.

If you DON'T want to crowd dive, get it so you can spot incoming AIRs and know where to hit ARTs that are hiding =3=
That's for hack and slash kinda melee (aila, ouka, ivis HD) where 1v1 is most advantageous for them. So most time what I usually do is to go slashing against singled out enemies on the map, avoiding air heavy areas, go around to behind enemy lines to pick on ppl, and protect/block a side route where the team is not covering.

With 2.5 second cooldown and huge charging range, I can't imagine doing anything more efficient than crowd diving with Reine, since I really dislike the idea of going 1v1 against someone when your weapon cooldown is 2.5s. With that enourmous cool down and charging range, I'd like to hit as many enemy as possible per shot.

@Trill wrote:
I do not think he has enough room to change a 5 cost tune to a 45 cost tune. |:
oh silly me =P
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptySat Nov 24, 2012 5:30 pm

Beetlander-chan will be beetlander-chan

tune dat 3X hypershot and play like an S_sized Beet
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptySun Nov 25, 2012 12:30 am

RedApple informed me of two things: Sapphire Veil does indeed give Clearance when used, and apparently it only gets All Guard when both EIW Cartridges are used (I'm taking that second one with a grain of salt).

@tehprognoob wrote:
Beetlander-chan will be beetlander-chan

tune dat 3X hypershot and play like an S_sized Beet
I just tested and confirmed that she does lose the melee cooldown while under the Hyper Shot buff... but I can't use a Power Spot to do this while Sapphire Veil is up. Do Revenge: Hyper Shot tunes bypass this and let her have Hyper Shot and Sapphire Veil at the same time?
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptySun Nov 25, 2012 12:34 am

@SL the Pyro wrote:
RedApple informed me of two things: Sapphire Veil does indeed give Clearance when used, and apparently it only gets All Guard when both EIW Cartridges are used (I'm taking that second one with a grain of salt).

@tehprognoob wrote:
Beetlander-chan will be beetlander-chan

tune dat 3X hypershot and play like an S_sized Beet
I just tested and confirmed that she does lose the melee cooldown while under the Hyper Shot buff... but I can't use a Power Spot to do this while Sapphire Veil is up. Do Revenge: Hyper Shot tunes bypass this and let her have Hyper Shot and Sapphire Veil at the same time?
Clearance is able to activate while CV is up on the old Newvis, so Revenge Hypershots should work similarly.
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptySun Nov 25, 2012 1:01 am

Astral_Goddess wrote:
Clearance is able to activate while CV is up on the old Newvis, so Revenge Hypershots should work similarly.
Noted and edited into the first post.

Also, turns out that RedApple was right about All Guard only working when you have both EIWs. I also noticed you get 15 seconds more SV time with every EIW used. This has been edited into the first post as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 26, 2012 11:35 am

Ok I tried the build. Works great. I want to thank all the kind people on this board who sent me links to those foreign sites and those that helped finalize the build (Astral,Silvraph).

Still not used to lands after a 1 year absence , but when the stars are right miracles can happen. Even a free frag like me can be somewhat of a threat and contribute.

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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptyMon Nov 26, 2012 8:21 pm

@SL the Pyro wrote:
Astral_Goddess wrote:
Clearance is able to activate while CV is up on the old Newvis, so Revenge Hypershots should work similarly.
Noted and edited into the first post.

Also, turns out that RedApple was right about All Guard only working when you have both EIWs. I also noticed you get 15 seconds more SV time with every EIW used. This has been edited into the first post as well.

Well it's still the same duration as the original Ivis with 2 EIWs.
90 seconds.
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptyTue Nov 27, 2012 12:25 am

There's a nasty glitch/exploit with Ivis Reine. Her Chain Guard can be EXTENDED by Rone. It's going to get patched out by tonight's emergency maintenance.

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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptyTue Nov 27, 2012 1:34 am

@HashiriyaR32 wrote:
There's a nasty glitch/exploit with Ivis Reine. Her Chain Guard can be EXTENDED by Rone. It's going to get patched out by tonight's emergency maintenance.


I thought it was Infinite CV.
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptyTue Nov 27, 2012 1:41 am

does buff rejection works against chain guard, I know with buff rejection on our bot, we can't activated selfbuff
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptyTue Nov 27, 2012 6:14 am

Ugh, okay. I need help testing Revenge: Hypershot and Sapphire Veil together. I've gotten it to proc without SV, but whenever I activate SV suddenly all the training arena mobs walk in the other direction,

@HashiriyaR32 wrote:
There's a nasty glitch/exploit with Ivis Reine. Her Chain Guard can be EXTENDED by Rone.
...How the hell did they manage that? Chain Guard isn't even that kind of buff!
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PostSubject: Re: Ivis Reine   Ivis Reine - Page 2 EmptyTue Nov 27, 2012 7:34 am

@SL the Pyro wrote:
Ugh, okay. I need help testing Revenge: Hypershot and Sapphire Veil together. I've gotten it to proc without SV, but whenever I activate SV suddenly all the training arena mobs walk in the other direction,

@HashiriyaR32 wrote:
There's a nasty glitch/exploit with Ivis Reine. Her Chain Guard can be EXTENDED by Rone.
...How the hell did they manage that? Chain Guard isn't even that kind of buff!

Prolly, programming error (which CS keeps on doing a loooooooooot of times)
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